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Old September 7 2011, 03:16 PM   #211
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Dennis, you have an odd definition of "trivia." I'm not windering how many Robins you can fit on the head of a pin, but about narrative issues: does the Batman/Robin team function effectively with a new Robin every year? Possibly so.
That's just back-story now. What's the book like this month?
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Old September 7 2011, 03:46 PM   #212
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That's a fair point, and as I've said, I'm looking forward to much of this. Part of how and why I'm looking forward to this is figuring out, and watching them figure out, where they're going, and why they choose to keep what they keep. When I ask these questions, it's not to rag on DC fanboyishly (at least not always). I think it's a genuinely exciting experiment with great potential, but also potential to fall flat in some areas. When it comes to Batman, DC's already said it's mostly intact - so how the backstory worked now that the time compression is offical and not simply assumed as a sliding time scale, is really interesting.
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Old September 7 2011, 04:28 PM   #213
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The real question is whether Talia al-Ghul is a child predator. Probably.
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Old September 7 2011, 04:46 PM   #214
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^ Please don't bring that one panel up again LOL
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Old September 7 2011, 05:26 PM   #215
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Oh, we already knew she was a rapist.
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Old September 7 2011, 05:35 PM   #216
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Hahaha. That was so bizarre to read. It was a WTF moment for me. I understand the character motivation behind the act with Jason but it felt wrong!!! LOL
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Old September 7 2011, 05:37 PM   #217
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Well, Ra's' half-sister tried to rape Tim Drake recently.
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Old September 7 2011, 05:39 PM   #218
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^ Yep that was in the first Red Robin arc I believe. Ra's "had breeding plans" for Tim. That story line hasn't been followed up on yet...and probably won't now.
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Old September 7 2011, 07:09 PM   #219
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My local comic shop is running an offer on the new 52, where they give you a card and stamp it for every one of the new books you buy. When you get five stamps, you get to pick an issue for free. I already have four stamps, so when I pick up Batman & Robin #1 next Wednesday, I'll be entitled to my free one. At first I was gonna go with Green Lantern, but then I started thinking about whether I should use it as an opportunity to try something new (and just buy GL #1 anyway). There's a few that look interesting, like Deathstroke, Suicide Squad, Red Lanterns...

Anyone got any recommendations out of next week's releases?
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Old September 7 2011, 07:25 PM   #220
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Reading the JL, the new Action Comics, and then the Detective.... there's no clear IN BOOK indication of when these stories take place... or have I missed something. Action takes place in the "past," the JL is supposed to take place "5 years" ago and Detective now... but... if I was a new reader, not connected to BBSs, how would I know that?
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Old September 7 2011, 08:15 PM   #221
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Just read Justice League International.



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Old September 7 2011, 08:18 PM   #222
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Same with Men at War, which I just finished - the characters seem surprised to see a man who can fly, but some seem less surprised than others. It's a solid read, btw. Of the three I've read (JL, JLI, and this one), it's the best of the three. The back-up story is okay.

If anyone else has read JLI, do you remember the panel where Briggs and Esposito walk out of a room past three small TVs? One is showing Wonder Woman, one the Daily Planet Building, and the last is a big yellow bat-symbol with a man speaking underneath it. I assume this refers to Wayne's announcement in Batman Inc last year? If so, it's a clear indication that JLI is in the "right now" category.

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Old September 7 2011, 08:43 PM   #223
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Reading the JL, the new Action Comics, and then the Detective.... there's no clear IN BOOK indication of when these stories take place... or have I missed something. Action takes place in the "past," the JL is supposed to take place "5 years" ago and Detective now... but... if I was a new reader, not connected to BBSs, how would I know that?
I suppose you could argue that it doesn't matter. The crowd DC is going for are not the types to sit around and wonder what books take place when, but enjoy a good story. Unfortunately that's all going to go out the window during the first big crossover event.
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Old September 7 2011, 08:53 PM   #224
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Reading the JL, the new Action Comics, and then the Detective.... there's no clear IN BOOK indication of when these stories take place... or have I missed something. Action takes place in the "past," the JL is supposed to take place "5 years" ago and Detective now... but... if I was a new reader, not connected to BBSs, how would I know that?
I suppose you could argue that it doesn't matter. The crowd DC is going for are not the types to sit around and wonder what books take place when, but enjoy a good story. Unfortunately that's all going to go out the window during the first big crossover event.
Sure. You could. But then why have then told us, the internet, if it didn't matter... Because it does matter. We're seeing characters at different points. which could be interesting.

But, if I'm a new reader and I pick up Action comics, Superman, JL, and Batman... In one, Supes has been around for 6 months (in action), in the others at different periods. Supes LOOKS different, ACTS different. These are things as a teen I would notice. And if I didn't know they all took place in different time periods... it would be weird.

...which could be solved by a simple "5 years ago" mention in the setting... or something. Or in the name of the story.
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Old September 7 2011, 10:10 PM   #225
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The Smallville (TV series) gag at the start of Action Comics made me laugh my arse off...





Nice one, Mr. Morrison.


ETA: Finished the issue now, and that really was Grant Morrison's Smallville. I kinda like it. Superman is a bit cocky, but I'm guessing he'll grow out of that throughout the course of the series, and into the Superman we know. I like how Luthor is already on his case, too.

Interesting start. I look forward to seeing where it goes.
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