A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones Spoiler-Filled Discussion - Page 21

Bisz · September 3 2011, 04:05 PM

Page 915, 2011 Bantam Books Mass Market Edition wrote:

"She says that you must choose. Take the sword and slay the Kingslayer, or be hanged for a betrayer. The sword or the noose, she says. Choose, she says. Choose."

Thats just a few paragraphs before Brienne screams one word. I think if there is one word she can scream that will save her, its "sword", or something along the lines of making the choice to go get Jaime. I'm still early on in ADWD and I'm resisting the urge to page ahead and find out :P

Scout101 · September 3 2011, 10:42 PM

page ahead all you like, you'll have to wait until GRRM gets to the next book for any resolution. All Jamie and Brienne get are a cameo at the end.

Darth_Daver · September 4 2011, 08:31 AM

Out Of My Vulcan Mind wrote:

Starbrow wrote:

At the end of the 4th Book, who is Pate? Why was he saved as the last lines of the 4th book?

The real Pate was the young Citadel student killed in the prologue. By the end of the book he's been replaced by the Faceless Man - presumably Jaqen H'ghar - who killed him.

I get that the guy at the end is the killer at the beginning, but how did you get that he's a Faceless Man, more specificly Jaqen H'ghar? (no book 5 spoilers please)

Shurik · September 4 2011, 08:41 AM

Darth_Daver wrote:

Out Of My Vulcan Mind wrote:

Starbrow wrote:

At the end of the 4th Book, who is Pate? Why was he saved as the last lines of the 4th book?

The real Pate was the young Citadel student killed in the prologue. By the end of the book he's been replaced by the Faceless Man - presumably Jaqen H'ghar - who killed him.

I get that the guy at the end is the killer at the beginning, but how did you get that he's a Faceless Man, more specificly Jaqen H'ghar? (no book 5 spoilers please)

Jaqen changed his face in front of Arya and the guy with this exact appearance was the one who killed Pate.

Out Of My Vulcan Mind · September 4 2011, 11:29 AM

^^^
Yeah, and then he must have changed his face to look just like Pate.

Bisz · September 4 2011, 02:55 PM

Scout101 wrote:

page ahead all you like, you'll have to wait until GRRM gets to the next book for any resolution. All Jamie and Brienne get are a cameo at the end.

BAH!

Out Of My Vulcan Mind · September 5 2011, 04:51 PM

Bit of trivia: Natalie Tena revealed in an interview that when Hodor went the full monty prosthetic genitals were used over the real ones.

sidious618 · September 5 2011, 06:08 PM

Out Of My Vulcan Mind wrote:

Bit of trivia: Natalie Tena revealed in an interview that when Hodor went the full monty prosthetic genitals were used over the real ones.

I think that goes without saying.

JD · September 6 2011, 01:01 AM

Gee that must have been an interesting job for the sulpter.
"So what did you do at work today"
"Oh, nothing. I just sculpted some male genitals for Game of Thrones."

Klaus · September 6 2011, 04:42 AM

It'd make for a killer line in your c.v., that's for sure!

Darth_Daver · September 6 2011, 06:19 AM

Shurik wrote:

Darth_Daver wrote:

Out Of My Vulcan Mind wrote:

The real Pate was the young Citadel student killed in the prologue. By the end of the book he's been replaced by the Faceless Man - presumably Jaqen H'ghar - who killed him.

I get that the guy at the end is the killer at the beginning, but how did you get that he's a Faceless Man, more specificly Jaqen H'ghar? (no book 5 spoilers please)

Jaqen changed his face in front of Arya and the guy with this exact appearance was the one who killed Pate.

Oh I either flew by the killers description, or I didn't remember Jaqen's.

Next question: why would anyone think that Jaqen = Syrio? (Apart from the fact that we didn't see any body for Syrio)

Shurik · September 6 2011, 10:04 AM

Darth_Daver wrote:

Shurik wrote:

Darth_Daver wrote:

I get that the guy at the end is the killer at the beginning, but how did you get that he's a Faceless Man, more specificly Jaqen H'ghar? (no book 5 spoilers please)

Jaqen changed his face in front of Arya and the guy with this exact appearance was the one who killed Pate.

Oh I either flew by the killers description, or I didn't remember Jaqen's.

Next question: why would anyone think that Jaqen = Syrio? (Apart from the fact that we didn't see any body for Syrio)

Jaqen=Syrio theory is based on fandom's love for Syrio and a lot of wishful thinking.
We didn't see Syrio's body and Jaqen was picked from KL dungeons shortly afterwards. Personally, I find it hard to believe that the Kingsguard guy who fought him, spared him after Syrio killed or maimed several Lannister guardsmen. Syrio is dead as a result of a very noble sacrifice.

Out Of My Vulcan Mind · September 6 2011, 04:18 PM

Anthony Morris has been cast as Tickler and Andy Beckwith as Rorge. GRRM's clues point to Gerard Jordan playing Biter.

TheLobes · September 6 2011, 05:13 PM

Do you guys consider those books to be 'great novels' or think they are well written?

Misfit Toy · September 6 2011, 06:40 PM

I think of them as a great fantasy epic. They are well written, but IMO would have been better if the saga were a bit more streamlined. Just my .02

September 3 2011, 10:42 PM	#302
Scout101 Admiral Location: Rhode Island, USA	Re: A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones Spoiler-Filled Discussion page ahead all you like, you'll have to wait until GRRM gets to the next book for any resolution. All Jamie and Brienne get are a cameo at the end. __________________ Perhaps, if I am very lucky, the feeble efforts of my lifetime will someday be noticed and maybe, in some small way, they will be acknowledged as the greatest works of genius ever created by man. ~Jack Handey STO: @JScout33

September 4 2011, 11:29 AM	#305
Out Of My Vulcan Mind Vice Admiral Location: Wherever you go, there you are.	Re: A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones Spoiler-Filled Discussion ^^^ Yeah, and then he must have changed his face to look just like Pate. __________________ "I'll see you in another life, brother."

September 5 2011, 04:51 PM	#307
Out Of My Vulcan Mind Vice Admiral Location: Wherever you go, there you are.	Re: A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones Spoiler-Filled Discussion Bit of trivia: Natalie Tena revealed in an interview that when Hodor went the full monty prosthetic genitals were used over the real ones. __________________ "I'll see you in another life, brother."

September 6 2011, 01:01 AM	#309
JD Admiral Location: Arizona, USA	Re: A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones Spoiler-Filled Discussion Gee that must have been an interesting job for the sulpter. "So what did you do at work today" "Oh, nothing. I just sculpted some male genitals for Game of Thrones." __________________ Over the course of many encounters and many years, I have successfully developed a standard operating procedure for dealing with big, nasty monsters. Run away. Me and Monty Python. Harry Dresden - Blood Rites (The Dresden Files #6)

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Klaus Rear Admiral Location: Klaus - Beach condo, Bay of Eldamar	Re: A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones Spoiler-Filled Discussion It'd make for a killer line in your c.v., that's for sure! __________________ "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain http://tlbklaus.deviantart.com

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September 6 2011, 04:18 PM	#313
Out Of My Vulcan Mind Vice Admiral Location: Wherever you go, there you are.	Re: A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones Spoiler-Filled Discussion Anthony Morris has been cast as Tickler and Andy Beckwith as Rorge. GRRM's clues point to Gerard Jordan playing Biter. __________________ "I'll see you in another life, brother."

September 6 2011, 05:13 PM	#314
TheLobes Commander	Re: A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones Spoiler-Filled Discussion Do you guys consider those books to be 'great novels' or think they are well written?

September 6 2011, 06:40 PM	#315
Misfit Toy Caped Trek Mod Location: Transporter buffer	Re: A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones Spoiler-Filled Discussion I think of them as a great fantasy epic. They are well written, but IMO would have been better if the saga were a bit more streamlined. Just my .02 __________________ Woof.