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Old September 3 2011, 04:05 PM   #301
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Re: A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones Spoiler-Filled Discussion

Page 915, 2011 Bantam Books Mass Market Edition wrote:
"She says that you must choose. Take the sword and slay the Kingslayer, or be hanged for a betrayer. The sword or the noose, she says. Choose, she says. Choose."
Thats just a few paragraphs before Brienne screams one word. I think if there is one word she can scream that will save her, its "sword", or something along the lines of making the choice to go get Jaime. I'm still early on in ADWD and I'm resisting the urge to page ahead and find out :P
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Old September 3 2011, 10:42 PM   #302
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page ahead all you like, you'll have to wait until GRRM gets to the next book for any resolution. All Jamie and Brienne get are a cameo at the end.
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Old September 4 2011, 08:31 AM   #303
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At the end of the 4th Book, who is Pate? Why was he saved as the last lines of the 4th book?
The real Pate was the young Citadel student killed in the prologue. By the end of the book he's been replaced by the Faceless Man - presumably Jaqen H'ghar - who killed him.
I get that the guy at the end is the killer at the beginning, but how did you get that he's a Faceless Man, more specificly Jaqen H'ghar? (no book 5 spoilers please)
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Old September 4 2011, 08:41 AM   #304
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At the end of the 4th Book, who is Pate? Why was he saved as the last lines of the 4th book?
The real Pate was the young Citadel student killed in the prologue. By the end of the book he's been replaced by the Faceless Man - presumably Jaqen H'ghar - who killed him.
I get that the guy at the end is the killer at the beginning, but how did you get that he's a Faceless Man, more specificly Jaqen H'ghar? (no book 5 spoilers please)
Jaqen changed his face in front of Arya and the guy with this exact appearance was the one who killed Pate.
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Old September 4 2011, 11:29 AM   #305
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Yeah, and then he must have changed his face to look just like Pate.
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Old September 4 2011, 02:55 PM   #306
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page ahead all you like, you'll have to wait until GRRM gets to the next book for any resolution. All Jamie and Brienne get are a cameo at the end.
BAH!
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Old September 5 2011, 04:51 PM   #307
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Bit of trivia: Natalie Tena revealed in an interview that when Hodor went the full monty prosthetic genitals were used over the real ones.
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Old September 5 2011, 06:08 PM   #308
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Bit of trivia: Natalie Tena revealed in an interview that when Hodor went the full monty prosthetic genitals were used over the real ones.
I think that goes without saying.
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Old September 6 2011, 01:01 AM   #309
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Gee that must have been an interesting job for the sulpter.
"So what did you do at work today"
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It'd make for a killer line in your c.v., that's for sure!
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Old September 6 2011, 06:19 AM   #311
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The real Pate was the young Citadel student killed in the prologue. By the end of the book he's been replaced by the Faceless Man - presumably Jaqen H'ghar - who killed him.
I get that the guy at the end is the killer at the beginning, but how did you get that he's a Faceless Man, more specificly Jaqen H'ghar? (no book 5 spoilers please)
Jaqen changed his face in front of Arya and the guy with this exact appearance was the one who killed Pate.
Oh I either flew by the killers description, or I didn't remember Jaqen's.

Next question: why would anyone think that Jaqen = Syrio? (Apart from the fact that we didn't see any body for Syrio)
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Old September 6 2011, 10:04 AM   #312
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I get that the guy at the end is the killer at the beginning, but how did you get that he's a Faceless Man, more specificly Jaqen H'ghar? (no book 5 spoilers please)
Jaqen changed his face in front of Arya and the guy with this exact appearance was the one who killed Pate.
Oh I either flew by the killers description, or I didn't remember Jaqen's.

Next question: why would anyone think that Jaqen = Syrio? (Apart from the fact that we didn't see any body for Syrio)
Jaqen=Syrio theory is based on fandom's love for Syrio and a lot of wishful thinking.
We didn't see Syrio's body and Jaqen was picked from KL dungeons shortly afterwards. Personally, I find it hard to believe that the Kingsguard guy who fought him, spared him after Syrio killed or maimed several Lannister guardsmen. Syrio is dead as a result of a very noble sacrifice.
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Old September 6 2011, 04:18 PM   #313
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Anthony Morris has been cast as Tickler and Andy Beckwith as Rorge. GRRM's clues point to Gerard Jordan playing Biter.
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Old September 6 2011, 05:13 PM   #314
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Do you guys consider those books to be 'great novels' or think they are well written?
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Old September 6 2011, 06:40 PM   #315
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I think of them as a great fantasy epic. They are well written, but IMO would have been better if the saga were a bit more streamlined. Just my .02
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