DC's New 52: Reviews and Discussion (Spoilers welcolme and likely)

[Nerys Myk]

theenglish wrote:

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This preview is pretty neat. Superman originally started in an era when there were not a lot of ways to protect the common man from the whim of the rich and from big business. Seeing as how many in the US (and Canadian) Government wish to return to this era, it seems like a great moment for Superman to return to his original form.

Also, the original Superman never had Ma and Pa Kent to teach him right from wrong. He was raised in an orphanage. Any word on how this versions adopted parents will fit into the picture?

Morrison says both Kents are dead by the time Superman makes his debut, but they did provide the basis of his moral outlook.

The Kents adopting him has been part of the Superman story since ( the original ) Superman #1 from 1939.

[theenglish]

Nerys Myk wrote:

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Morrison says both Kents are dead by the time Superman makes his debut, but they did provide the basis of his moral outlook.

The Kents adopting him has been part of the Superman story since ( the original ) Superman #1 from 1939.

The is a nice Wikipedia summary here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_and_Martha_Kent

So we are basically going back to the pre-Crisis status of the Kents.

[C_Miller]

Admiral_Young wrote:

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I'm kind of surprise that Morrison is only writing two books in the relaunch. Action Comics (a huge one granted) and Batman, Inc. There is still the unannounced project he stated when he revealed Batman, Inc would return next year (that isn't Multiversity).

Morrison is a notoriously slow writer and for some reason he's always put with extremely slow artists. I'd say 2 is about all he can handle and I hope that he's pretty far ahead on Incorporated or Action Comics.

[Admiral Buzzkill]

theenglish wrote:

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This preview is pretty neat. Superman originally started in an era when there were not a lot of ways to protect the common man from the whim of the rich and from big business.

I agree. I really like the idea of taking the character's real origins in the 1930s and adapting the early stories and outlook to make that part of his current back-story and continuity.

And I think it works a little better in this decade than it might have, oh, thirty or forty years ago when showing him as a rebel and defiant of authority would have seemed more self-conscious and forced. As an example of the latter, look now at O'Neill's Green Lantern/Green Arrow "road" stories. As much as we may admire them they're also heavy-handed and determinedly "hip."

IIRC, his original origins and early adventures were somewhat adapted to serve as Kal-L's, weren't they? In the mid-1980s DC published a "Secret Origins" story for the Earth-2 Superman incorporating things like his busting into the governor's mansion to secure a pardon for a wrongly-convicted death row inmate, etc.

theenglish wrote:

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So we are basically going back to the pre-Crisis status of the Kents.

Among other things, Byrne adjusted Clark's status quo to reflect a little more of the common experience of young people in our time - most twenty-somethings (or thirty or forty or even fifty-somethings) have one or both parents living and active in their own lives. Blame that on penicillin. OTOH, whether it's integral to their origins or not (as it is with Batman) the orphan status of the hero is part of the origin of quite a number of the most popular superheroes - Spider-Man, for example, in addition to Bruce and Clark.

[theenglish]

What about the Green Lantern title?

Is Hal Jordan the Green Lantern because the description of the title implies that the title character may be somebody else?

[Nerys Myk]

Sinestro is currentlly the GL for Earth's sector. Hal is unemployed I guess.

[Admiral_Young]

Yeah, Sinestro is back as GL and using his own ring again which of course used to be Hal's. It's fall out from the War of the Green Lantern stuff.

[Hound of UIster]

Isn't Sinestro from another sector?

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Sinestro's ring as shown in the preview pages for GL #1 is a very different design than the one Jordan's been wearing for years (which is different from the one that he wore in the early years of the comic). Is it supposed to literally be Jordan's ring, or just Jordan's in the sense that he's taking over Jordan's job?

I notice that the design of Sinestro's new uniform - as well as his haircut - is taken directly from the movie.

[Nerys Myk]

Hound of UIster wrote:

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Isn't Sinestro from another sector?

The ring chose him for Earth's Sector. Take it up with the ring.

You dont need to be born in a sector to become its GL.

[theenglish]

Dennis wrote:

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Sinestro's ring as shown in the preview pages for GL #1 is a very different design than the one Jordan's been wearing for years (which is different from the one that he wore in the early years of the comic). Is it supposed to literally be Jordan's ring, or just Jordan's in the sense that he's taking over Jordan's job?

I notice that the design of Sinestro's new uniform - as well as his haircut - is taken directly from the movie.

So, this means that Hal will no longer be a member of the Justice League following the opening story line--or is the Sinestro situation temporary?

[Admiral_Young]

I read somewhere that Johns stated that Sinestro was using Hal's ring now. I've not been following the War of the Green Lantern's Aftermath so it's possible that things have changed or I'm just wrong Yeah I think most of the Lantern designs for the relaunch have been taken from the film.

[Admiral Buzzkill]

I'm sure that Jordan's removal in Sinestro's favor is a passing situation. It's Hal's book.

Fuck, we're talking about people who can't keep Superman dead or Bruce Wayne and Barbara Gordon in wheelchairs. How long do you think they can stand to keep Hal Jordan on interstellar unemployment?

[Admiral_Young]

Indeed, and yeah there is a plot reason why Sinestro is back in the Corps.

[Mr Light]

I would be very surprised if Sinestro was still the lead after 6 issues. Maybe 12.