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Old August 4 2011, 02:52 PM   #631
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^she's been a New Warrior and an Avenger, so ... complicated.
Right but she's still a mutant. I was under the impression Fox laid claim to all of them.
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Old August 4 2011, 04:30 PM   #632
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don't think so. i think they solely have rights to the X-titles, which given Angelica's been a Hellion in New Mutants, a New Warrior and an Avenger ... like I said; complicated.
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Old August 4 2011, 04:36 PM   #633
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that's probably why beast won't be in the avengers movie either. he's been both.I would love to see them do ww2 deffenders movie.
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Old August 4 2011, 04:38 PM   #634
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Well I guess the real test would be to see if Scarlett Witch ever makes it to Marvel Studios in an Avengers sequel.
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Old August 4 2011, 07:24 PM   #635
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^she's been a New Warrior and an Avenger, so ... complicated.
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Her comic debut was in Uncanny X-Men and she was on the Hellions with Emma Frost as an adversarial group to The New Mutants IIRC.

I want to say that she had some guest appearances in some of the X-Books as it looked like her microwave powers had given her cancer. It was thought she was going to die, then didn't. I don't recall how. I want to say this was around the Utopia storylines? Now she's in the Allies book which I've not been keeping up with.

So, yeah is she then as a mutant under Fox's contract or as an Avenger is she fair game with Marvel Studios or do the ties to animated Spidey legit as an expanded supporting character?
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Old August 5 2011, 12:31 AM   #636
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All mutants are owned by Fox so Marvel Studios can't use them in their films. Wanda and Pietro's name are clearly seen on the computer in "X2" and we know they are Magneto's children so "Avengers" sequels could never use them which sucks.
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Old August 5 2011, 12:35 AM   #637
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I thought so.
I'd be curious to see that contract with FOX.
"ALL MUTANTS", I mean dang, covers a large portion of the Marvel catalog that doesn't necessarily interact with the X-Men sometimes....like a Firestar.

I could see Cloak & Dagger in a Spider-man movie but that would be out also.
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"Cloak and Dagger" is currently being developed as a television series. It's been long known that Fox has the rights to mutants, Fantastic Four, and Daredevil. Don't think they have anything else. I really want Marvel/Disney to buy FF. Doubt it would happen.
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Old August 5 2011, 01:12 AM   #639
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I thought so.
I'd be curious to see that contract with FOX.
"ALL MUTANTS", I mean dang, covers a large portion of the Marvel catalog that doesn't necessarily interact with the X-Men sometimes....like a Firestar.

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Remember the MUTANT X lawsuit? Fox was not happy when Marvel let somebody else do a tv series featuring some of their "other" mutants . . . .
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I thought so.
I'd be curious to see that contract with FOX.
"ALL MUTANTS", I mean dang, covers a large portion of the Marvel catalog that doesn't necessarily interact with the X-Men sometimes....like a Firestar.

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Remember the MUTANT X lawsuit? Fox was not happy when Marvel let somebody else do a tv series featuring some of their "other" mutants . . . .
I thought Mutant X got in just under the wire. Not sure I knew there was a lawsuit on that.
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To refresh everyone's memory:

http://articles.latimes.com/2003/mar...ess/fi-mutant5
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Old August 5 2011, 01:56 AM   #642
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All mutants are owned by Fox so Marvel Studios can't use them in their films. Wanda and Pietro's name are clearly seen on the computer in "X2" and we know they are Magneto's children so "Avengers" sequels could never use them which sucks.
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I'd be curious to see that contract with FOX.
"ALL MUTANTS", I mean dang, covers a large portion of the Marvel catalog that doesn't necessarily interact with the X-Men sometimes....like a Firestar.

I could see Cloak & Dagger in a Spider-man movie but that would be out also.
Yeah, that is kinda crappy. Are there mutants not associated with X-Men or any of it's various spinoffs? If not I guess I can see how the X-Men rights would give them all of the mutants, but if there are than that seems kind of unreasonable to me.
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If Whedon wants to improve a character or make her more interesting, then more power to him. It'll make for a better movie and give Johannson a better role to play.

Or are we talking hypotheticals again rather than addressing facts?
I think Shazam was making a joke against Whedon's known trademark of having female characters ridiculously stronger and more able than all their male counterparts.
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http://www.superherohype.com/news/ar...vengers-update

Sam Jackson offers some updates on filming Avengers.
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Go look at on-line talkbacks and objections to replacing Peter Parker with a black character in Marvel's Ultimates line.
Point of order: black/latino. (Hence I referred to him as Marvel's answer to Jamie Reyes, which I think of as a good thing).
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