Captain America: The First Avenger-Review, Discuss, Grade, Sequel, DVD - Page 22

davejames · August 3 2011, 07:08 PM

Anwar wrote:

But it would've been really offensive to have it seem like Cap played a big part in the war on the Axis instead of the normal soldiers. Having him fight a group like HYDRA (who WERE all Nazis until they broke away) keeps the potential offensiveness down.

I don't think it offended anyone to see Indy fighting the Nazis. And it's not like these are specific WWII battles we're talking about. It still would have been Red Skull doing his crazy, James Bond Villain thing in his mountain hideout, but he would be guarded by actual, authentic-looking Nazi troops to add that extra dose of believability.

It definitely wasn't a big issue for me, but I can see how it might have helped the movie a bit.

Captain Craig · August 3 2011, 08:31 PM

Beyond Antares wrote:

I thought the movie would have had a bit more gravitas if they'd stuck with the Nazis. I thought the Hydra troops were a little too comic booky. Yes, it's a comic book movie, but the original Captain America comic books also had Nazis. Nazis are easier to hate than fictional villains in fictional stormtrooper gear.

There were 2 "standard" Nazi's who showed up to inspect Schmidt's progress after a year alone. That he promptly killed of course. So I guess some "regular" Nazi's made a cameo.

captcalhoun · August 3 2011, 09:57 PM

who was the third guy then?

Captain Craig · August 3 2011, 10:04 PM

Oh, was it three? I wasn't really keeping score, just knew that scene had some "standard" Nazi's that were cannon fodder.

TemporalFlux · August 3 2011, 10:23 PM

Come on, guys. Cap punched out Hitler at least 200 times; how much more Nazi can you get?

Servo · August 4 2011, 12:37 AM

That "Star-Spangled Man" song really sticks in your head. It's been 10 hours since I saw the film, and I'm still whistling the tune.

G2309 · August 4 2011, 01:13 AM

Just seen it and really enjoyed it. Liked the setting but also would have preffered regular Nazis. The movie wasn't so gung ho American great as I was expecting.

Sci · August 4 2011, 01:23 AM

I went to see Captain America with my best friend, who is Jewish. She said that she went in intending to root for the character who killed the most Nazis... and found herself rooting for Red Skull. She was disappointed by that.

timothy · August 4 2011, 01:27 AM

saw it agin today for a second time and I love this movie so much. question, the sceen where the red skull was posing for a paint and the scientist came asked him a question. the music during that sceen was"nt it the same music from the movie excalibur?

RAMA · August 4 2011, 01:28 AM

His Avengers costume:

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Gov Kodos · August 4 2011, 01:44 AM

timothy wrote:

saw it agin today for a second time and I love this movie so much. question, the sceen where the red skull was posing for a paint and the scientist came asked him a question. the music during that sceen was"nt it the same music from the movie excalibur?

Pretty sure the music during the portrait scene is from Wagner, I believe it is Siegfried's Funeral March but I'd need to see the movie again to be sure. It is also used in Excalibur, my favorite music piece in Excalibur was using Karl Orff's Carmina Burana when Arthur and the knights are riding out of Camelot for the last battle.

Anwar · August 4 2011, 02:02 AM

Sci wrote:

I went to see Captain America with my best friend, who is Jewish. She said that she went in intending to root for the character who killed the most Nazis... and found herself rooting for Red Skull. She was disappointed by that.

Seeing how all HYDRA soldiers are renegade Nazis, surely she could've made some concession?

Sci · August 4 2011, 02:43 AM

Anwar wrote:

Sci wrote:

I went to see Captain America with my best friend, who is Jewish. She said that she went in intending to root for the character who killed the most Nazis... and found herself rooting for Red Skull. She was disappointed by that.

Seeing how all HYDRA soldiers are renegade Nazis, surely she could've made some concession?

She refused to concede that, insisting that the fact that HYDRA was an off-shoot made them a distinct organization from the Nazis.

Captain Craig · August 4 2011, 02:46 AM

Sci wrote:

Anwar wrote:

Sci wrote:

I went to see Captain America with my best friend, who is Jewish. She said that she went in intending to root for the character who killed the most Nazis... and found herself rooting for Red Skull. She was disappointed by that.

Seeing how all HYDRA soldiers are renegade Nazis, surely she could've made some concession?

She refused to concede that, insisting that the fact that HYDRA was an off-shoot made them a distinct organization from the Nazis.

That just sounds...silly.
It's like saying Al Queda is ok because they are an offshoot of the much worse Taliban(hypothetical but still).

Sci · August 4 2011, 05:03 AM

Captain Craig wrote:

Sci wrote:

Anwar wrote:

Seeing how all HYDRA soldiers are renegade Nazis, surely she could've made some concession?

She refused to concede that, insisting that the fact that HYDRA was an off-shoot made them a distinct organization from the Nazis.

That just sounds...silly.
It's like saying Al Queda is ok because they are an offshoot of the much worse Taliban(hypothetical but still).

She didn't say HYDRA was okay. She said she was disappointed because she wanted to see Captain America killing Nazis.

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August 3 2011, 09:57 PM	#318
captcalhoun Admiral Location: gone	Re: Captain America: The First Avenger-Review, Discuss, Grade, Sequel, who was the third guy then?

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August 4 2011, 12:37 AM	#321
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August 4 2011, 01:13 AM	#322
G2309 Captain	Re: Captain America: The First Avenger-Review, Discuss, Grade, Sequel, Just seen it and really enjoyed it. Liked the setting but also would have preffered regular Nazis. The movie wasn't so gung ho American great as I was expecting. __________________ I've got blog with some scifi reviews and humour if you want to check it out http://wondersandparodies.blogspot.com/

August 4 2011, 01:23 AM	#323
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August 4 2011, 01:27 AM	#324
timothy Rear Admiral Location: born to be a trekie	Re: Captain America: The First Avenger-Review, Discuss, Grade, Sequel, saw it agin today for a second time and I love this movie so much. question, the sceen where the red skull was posing for a paint and the scientist came asked him a question. the music during that sceen was"nt it the same music from the movie excalibur? __________________ I am currently reading star trek the weight of worlds by greg cox currently watching continuum, being human, lost girl, Arrow, supernatural, grimm, Once upon a time, the walking dead, the vampire diaries, revolution, merlin

August 4 2011, 01:28 AM	#325
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