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Old July 29 2011, 10:01 PM   #16
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Re: Lucasfilm's "Red Tails" Trailer Now Online

this has been in development so long i never thought it would get made. despite that, it looks very good.
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Old July 29 2011, 10:02 PM   #17
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Because there can't be two movies about the Tuskegee Airmen?
There can be. But based on the trailer, this one is almost an exact duplicate of it and, unlike The Tuskegee Airmen, this one does absolutely nothing to celebrate the actual people they're portraying.

So not only is it a rehash, it's an insulting rehash with special effects -- the only thing it apparently has to offer -- that you can spot a mile away. Again, unlike The Tuskegee Airmen.
I find the inflationary overuse of the word "insulting" insulting.
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Old July 29 2011, 10:24 PM   #18
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There can be. But based on the trailer, this one is almost an exact duplicate of it and, unlike The Tuskegee Airmen, this one does absolutely nothing to celebrate the actual people they're portraying.

So not only is it a rehash, it's an insulting rehash with special effects -- the only thing it apparently has to offer -- that you can spot a mile away. Again, unlike The Tuskegee Airmen.
You seem to be making an awful lot of assumptions based on a trailer. I'd hope and expect that Anthony Hemingway (television director of The Wire and Treme, among others) would pick a project with a little more integrity for his directorial debut.

I did like the HBO film when I saw it about ten years ago, though.
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Old July 29 2011, 11:03 PM   #19
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I am detecting a faint hint of film snobbism.
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Old July 29 2011, 11:31 PM   #20
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It's not unusual for people here to condemn a movie based on 2,5 minutes of a fast cut, energized trailer.. i'm used to that and i don't give a damn.

It is up to me to enjoy a movie and i can get as much enjoyment from a Michael Bay movie as i can from some arthouse flick.

I like the WW2 historical period and am playing games in that period, have read quite a bit about it and enjoy many WW2 movies and so i have seen The Tuskegee Airmen tv movie and enjoyed it a lot so i'll be pretty sure to enjoy that movie too if well done and not some collection of WW2 dogfights done with modern effects.
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Old July 29 2011, 11:56 PM   #21
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Wow!
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Old July 30 2011, 12:00 AM   #22
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Re: Lucasfilm's "Red Tails" Trailer Now Online

That looks pretty good, but one thing concerns me: "January 20, 2012." That's getting precariously close to the post-Academy Awards season late January/February release dates where studios like to dump films they think are stinkers.
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Old July 30 2011, 12:40 AM   #23
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Because there can't be two movies about the Tuskegee Airmen?
Only if they both have Cuba Gooding, Jr in them. In fact, he must now be in any future movies about the Tuskegee Airmen.
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Old July 30 2011, 01:03 AM   #24
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It looks good I'll go see it any idea when it's sopposed to be out?
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Old July 30 2011, 01:10 AM   #25
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Did you watch the trailer?
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Old July 30 2011, 01:27 AM   #26
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That looks pretty good, but one thing concerns me: "January 20, 2012." That's getting precariously close to the post-Academy Awards season late January/February release dates where studios like to dump films they think are stinkers.
It's an odd time to drop such a film, however I believe that Lucas/Hemingway wanted to release it to coincide with Martin Luther King Day and then run into 'Black History Month' in February, so I don't think it's being "dumped" per se...

The thing I'm a little disappointed in, is that given this has been gestating for over 20 YEARS, Lucas himself isn't directing. This has been a passion of his since college and I find it a touch confuddling that he is not directing himself. Might be an odd thing to say given I feel his work on the SW Prequels to be mind bogglingly bad, yet... I'd love to see if he has another "American Graffiti" or "THX" in him, removed from the grandeur, pomp and expectations of the SW universe.

Still, Hemmingway is a wonderful character director, and given that trailer the action appears to be up to snuff. It's now all down to the story (Lucas) and the script (John Ridley, who is an unknown Movie quantity himself, having spent most of his time writing for melodramatic TV drama).

Guess we'll see in 6 months


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Old July 30 2011, 01:57 AM   #27
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But based on the trailer, this one is almost an exact duplicate of it and, unlike The Tuskegee Airmen, this one does absolutely nothing to celebrate the actual people they're portraying. ].
Normally, I don't care, but just how in the hell did you get THAT out of that short trailer?
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Old July 30 2011, 02:07 AM   #28
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The thing I'm a little disappointed in, is that given this has been gestating for over 20 YEARS, Lucas himself isn't directing. This has been a passion of his since college and I find it a touch confuddling that he is not directing himself.
Lucas did do at least some re-shoots while Hemingway was otherwise occupied with Treme.
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Old July 30 2011, 04:01 AM   #29
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But based on the trailer, this one is almost an exact duplicate of it and, unlike The Tuskegee Airmen, this one does absolutely nothing to celebrate the actual people they're portraying. ].
Normally, I don't care, but just how in the hell did you get THAT out of that short trailer?
Easy.

Did you hear even a single syllable about them in the trailer? According to the trailer, they're just some random group of black pilots called the "Red Tails." It's even strongly hinted that its a work of fiction, as the only way you'd know otherwise is if you already knew.

And in regards to the people throwing their noses up in the air about people condemning a movie after a trailer, how is that any different from the people jacking off to it after a trailer?
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Old July 30 2011, 04:37 AM   #30
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And Terrance Howard played a similar role in "Harts War". He and another pilot got shot down and held in a German prison camp.

Both black pilots had to deal with racism in the POW camp.
Never saw that, is it any good?

You'd think a POW camp would be the one place where people would set aside their differences and realize they were all in it together, but apparently not.
I thought it was an okay movie. It's worth at least a rental

Here's a scene where Howard enters

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