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Old July 14 2011, 06:24 AM   #46
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Hi Kirsten,
Thanks for giving us this forum. Was so looking forward to getting to ShoreLeave this year but last minute changes in life will not allow me to attend.
Here are my questions

1) If you are given the go ahead to bring Janeway back would you envision a scenario where she comes back but a changed person?
One of the things of course that was shown on screen was when Q offered Picard the chance to change who he was. He took the chance to see who he was had he made other choices. And there is of course the side of affects of being assimilated and such.
Well, I can't imagine doing anything the same way, or even in a similar way to anything we've seen before because I always try to steer clear of such things. As to what I would envision doing...that will have to wait until such time, if ever, that I actually were in a position to do it.

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2) Any thoughts on that aspect of things as it relates to elimination of the borg?
Again...I can't say much about this, but I would imagine that if Janeway did come back and found the Borg gone forever she'd be awfully pleased...assuming she had absolute confirmation that it was true.

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3) I like my fellow treklit fans am also concerned about the characters that have developed so much as a result of this tragedy would be rendered moot. Have you given though to this how to make her sacrifice still meaningful?
I can't imagine writing a story that brought Janeway back that didn't make all that has happened up to this point both to her, and all of the characters, very meaningful. Again...everyone's experiences up to this point are still there...Janeway's return would only add a new complication to the equation.

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4) If I were writing star trek I would love to see a epic length Janeway solo book of self discovery and Adventure to bring her back to the land the living. Any thoughts on something like that?
At this point, any story that featured Janeway's return would by definition have to be pretty epic. I'm trying to imagine a bigger deal and failing miserably to come up with one. But I can't really see a Mosaic style book where all of the other characters were only briefly seen...I mean...what is the return without seeing how it affects those who loved her most and have suffered her loss?

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Thanks Again for allowing this forum. I look forward to watching the panel
You are most welcome.

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Old July 14 2011, 06:35 AM   #47
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My Question:

"One of the Greatest Strength's of Star Trek: Voyager, in my humble opinion, was the Sense of Family woven between the Crew. It's something that, through meeting most of the cast at conventions, I've seen was a bit of art imitating life. Yet in the post-finale Star Trek novels, that wonderful family was broken up. Now they are finally beginning to come back together, but are still split up amongst this Voyager Fleet. Will we ever again see our family brought back together in whole? Or closer to what we once knew? And will they ever be made truly whole with the return of Kathryn Janeway?"
I completely agree that the sense of family was one of Voyager's defining points. And if anything, I feel we've continued to focus on that, while expanding it, in the newer novels. As to the core cast being split up...I'm a little confused. Apart from the Doctor, who is serving on the Galen, and Neelix, who remains on New Talax but has already been seen interacting with his old "family" a couple of times and likely will continue to be seen...I think the rest of the gang is still on Voyager.

I don't think Janeway's return would necessitate changing that, but I also think of the Voyager Fleet as one big family...Chakotay even has this realization in Children of the Storm when he is contemplating the loss of three of the fleet's ships. Even though the other crews aren't his direct responsibility, he feels that they are and is willing to risk anything necessary to ensure their safety.

Bottom line, for me, the sense of family is still very much intact in the Voyager fleet. It's just a much bigger family now. As to whether or not that family will ever again include Janeway...it's not a question of can...but should she return...and only when the story demands it.

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Old July 14 2011, 06:54 AM   #48
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I have a question: Do you think Voyager and the rest of Treklit are moving too far from the series and films they're based on? Voyager is missing it's main character. In her place is someone new. While interesting for the most die-hard Treklit fans, do you really expect casual fans to buy novels bearing less and less resemblence to the shows they enjoyed?
I'm not going to speak for the rest of the series, but in Voyager's case, I think we are closer now to the show the series was based on than we have been at any point in the relaunch, apart from Janeway and Tuvok's absence.

The series' major arc was getting the ship home. We saw that happen on screen. So the challenge, post series, is to reintegrate Voyager into the wider Trek storyline while still giving them a unique place in the mythos..telling stories that only Voyager can tell.

As the Federation vessel with the greatest knowledge of the Delta Quadrant, and with Starfleet's need to know that the force of nature..the Borg..that almost decimated them, is truly gone, Voyager becomes essential again by allowing them to use their expertise again in the DQ. By eliminating the worry of "will they ever get home" through the use of slipstream technology we allow them a certain freedom to explore that had to be minimized to a degree when they were first trying to get home. Yes, they seemed to stop and smell the flowers a little more often along the way that first time out than might have seemed prudent, but now, they can go deeper and further in their explorations than they could before. It feels like the best of all possible worlds to me.

We are not simply retreading old ground here. But things are similar enough, and there are enough of the main series characters prominently featured in the stories that I do think a casual fan would find these book interesting, even if they have to play a bit of catch-up with some of the new characters. I don't think we want history to just repeat itself in these stories. But because this is tie-in fiction, and what we are tying it to is 170+ episodes of television, like Twain said of history...it doesn't repeat, but it does rhyme.

That's my sense of the new stories. They aren't exactly what we saw before. But they are similar enough that fans should feel comfortable in the new stories while still waiting on the edge of their seats to see what will happen next because they also know that the rules of the game have changed enough that anything can happen. I have also tried, very consciously to maintain many of the thematic elements to the series, both overall (the importance of family and "found' family, the passion and wonder of exploration) and in the individual character arcs. I am trying to allow all of the characters we know so well to continue to grow, but not in ways that are in any way untrue to what was established on screen. I don't think any of them, despite what they have been through most recently, would strike a casual reader as incredibly different from what we already know about them. Hopefully, just deeper.

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Old July 14 2011, 06:58 AM   #49
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I'm waiting for her to answer Guy's question.
Get comfy.

Tomorrow I'll be moving on to the questions that were submitted via email.

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Old July 14 2011, 12:27 PM   #50
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I'm waiting for her to answer Guy's question.
Get comfy.

Tomorrow I'll be moving on to the questions that were submitted via email.

Best,
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Heck, even "I'M" afraid to answer Guy's questions!
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Old July 14 2011, 01:41 PM   #51
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Thanks for taking the time to answer my question, Kirsten. You're really going above and beyond.

And although I see your points and mostly agree with them, there's still the problem of getting casual fans to do more than read the blurb, go "Who's Captain Eden? Who's Dr Cambridge? This isn't Voyager!" and put it back on the shelf.

I used to be the same way as a kid reading old DC comics. Spock as captain of the USS Surak? Kirk commanding Excelsior? The big changes put me off back then, although revisiting now, they were awesome, true to Trek and the best Trek comics of them all.
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Old July 14 2011, 02:59 PM   #52
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If you think about it, the Look Who's Talking Trilogy is about Saavik before she's reincarnated to one day be the Vulcan/Romulan Hybrid wife of Spock.

Talking Starfleet baby? CHECK!
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Old July 14 2011, 09:18 PM   #53
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Why not bring her back in a different timeline? Perhaps one where Voyager takes the "back to the DQ" option in "Endgame"?
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Old July 14 2011, 09:56 PM   #54
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Why not bring her back in a different timeline? Perhaps one where Voyager takes the "back to the DQ" option in "Endgame"?

For those of us who can't stomach C/7... "that's" not exactly a great choice.
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Old July 14 2011, 10:08 PM   #55
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Why not bring her back in a different timeline? Perhaps one where Voyager takes the "back to the DQ" option in "Endgame"?
I'd like see how Voyager got home the first time.

But I'm not sure Janeway lovers will like her gradual descent into the bitter, twisted Admiral Janeway of "Endgame". And NOBODY ANYWHERE EVER wants to see Chakotay/Seven
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Old July 14 2011, 10:51 PM   #56
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Why do you say that the Admiral was bitter and twisted?

Or even that Captain Janeway was a barrel of monkeys?

Apart from the grey rinse, they were exactly the same woman.
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Old July 15 2011, 12:18 AM   #57
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Why not bring her back in a different timeline? Perhaps one where Voyager takes the "back to the DQ" option in "Endgame"?

For those of us who can't stomach C/7... "that's" not exactly a great choice.
Easily fixed, because the admiral's return would change the crew dynamics.
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Old July 15 2011, 01:00 AM   #58
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Kirsten,

First of all, I want to compliment you on your superb writing skills. These rich stories and characters can only live on through talent like yours. And you've done an incredible job.

I posted a message on Amazon.com, running on without first consulting this forum (oops). However, I feel my essential points are still applicable.

Kathryn Janeway has been the essential "glue" that brought Voyager's characters together -- Kate Mulgrew's portrayal of her was legendary; it made such a strong impression. The expectation/anticipation of that presence lingers in my mind when reading the Voyager novels. I was surprised and somewhat disappointed at the apparent lack of fanfare in which Janeway was killed off. When I read the prologue, my stomach sank -- so I braced myself for all the details, only to read brief second hand accounts of what had happened, that lacked detail. I feel Janeway is far too important to the story to be let go in that fashion - she deserved more.

I then began to imagine the impending end to the Voyager novels without Janeway (as I really have no idea how you and the editors decide the fate of these stories). It's a thought I have a difficult time imagining, as I have such a fondness for Voyager and the characters.

Though I have no doubt you could pull it off, being such a fantastic writer, I simply cannot accept a Voyager series long-term without Janeway. Eventually, she's going to get old and die, as will most of the characters -- but that's a ways off. I feel very strongly that she still has a significant role to play here, and into the future. In short, I implore you and the powers that be to please bring Janeway back.

I read a brief idea about Q having something to do with her return. It's clever, and I think it would actually work if it were written with a lot of substance (again, that's your forte!), it could be both workable and believable. The Caeliar may have something to do with this, too.

Q is fickle and still relatively mysterious (to me) as I don't really understand his (their) ulterior motives. It could be that, in spite of his arrogance, he has a genuine fondness (even envy) of the human race and specific persons, which he may not ever admit up front... if he didn't, he wouldn't be bouncing in and out of their lives as he had.

In the end, I feel very strongly that keeping Janeway out of the Voyager timeline risks marginalizing the story. At least for me, it does.

I have to laugh sometimes at my utter emotional attachment to fictitious characters, but it is what it is. It's because of your talent that I continue to keep those sparks alive.

In the mean time, I'm hopeful that the editors and powers that be will see the sensibility in our collective request for the return of Kathryn Janeway.

Keep up the great work that you do!



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Old July 15 2011, 06:15 AM   #59
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Here begin the answers to the questions that were sent to me via email. If anyone knows these folks and can alert them to the fact that these answers are here, I'd really appreciate it.

Is there any chance that Janeway could be brought back as a main character in your books. With her with the Q there are many ways this could be done. There are also many ways that she can still be a key person in the Voyage stories admiral or not

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Yes. Even without the Q angle, there are many ways it could be done. And yes, she could still be a key person despite her rank.

The question is not can she, but should she...and I guess...will she...but you know I can't answer that right now.

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Old July 15 2011, 06:39 AM   #60
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Here's the problem with Kathryn Janeway.

Every time she comes to a crossroads she is going to meet herself literally.

She's an addict.

Just like Annorax.

She can't accept responsibility for dooming anything even a little bit.

What are her choices every time she meets a new older version of herself from a bad timeline informing her that "their" choices are poop?

Argument, murder or concession.

How many times is she going to be confronted by Kathryn Janeways who all insist they know better and that she should submit before their superior foreknowledge and life experience before the lady has to admit that is the queen of awful choices?

6?

7?

15?
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