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View Poll Results: You must choose!
Skrain Dukat 44 61.97%
Elmo Dukat 12 16.90%
just Gul Dukat 15 21.13%
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Old July 12 2011, 01:23 PM   #31
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Re: Skrain or Elmo Dukat?

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I gotta stick with Elmo, though my actual preference is for Cosmo.
Cosmo? Isn't that Palpatine's first name?

It's always going to be Skrian for me, it reads and sounds genuinely Cardassian but slightly...wrong and off putting. Gul Re'jal hit the nail on the head with the 'fingers on a chalkboard' analogy. Whereas Corat seems to work well for Damar...
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Old July 13 2011, 01:58 AM   #32
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Re: Skrain or Elmo Dukat?

Well, I think that for Gul Dukat, it's supposed to be offputting and creepy. He is a sick bastard. (Yet I have managed to hear it with a totally different tone for my AU Dukat. )
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Old July 13 2011, 02:41 PM   #33
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Re: Skrain or Elmo Dukat?

^ Indeed, for 'our' Dukat I imagine a stress on the first two letters Skrain, whereas for your Dukat I hear Skrain when spoken aloud.
And who doesn't like the rain?
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Old July 13 2011, 04:02 PM   #34
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Re: Skrain or Elmo Dukat?

WTF, Elmo?!


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Old July 13 2011, 04:08 PM   #35
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Re: Skrain or Elmo Dukat?

One of the many wrongs in Star Trek is that writers and fans insist that everyone, including aliens, have first names and last names.
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Old July 13 2011, 05:22 PM   #36
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Re: Skrain or Elmo Dukat?

I'm not sure that all species in Trek do.
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Old July 13 2011, 06:19 PM   #37
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Re: Skrain or Elmo Dukat?

The Vulcans don't. The Tellarites have three names, I think, and the Klingons only have one name too. There's probably lots more with just one name.
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Old July 14 2011, 05:15 AM   #38
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Re: Skrain or Elmo Dukat?

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The Vulcans don't. The Tellarites have three names, I think, and the Klingons only have one name too. There's probably lots more with just one name.
Ferengi, and probably 80% of the one-off aliens we meet.
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Old July 14 2011, 07:00 AM   #39
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Re: Skrain or Elmo Dukat?

When I first came across Skrain as Dukat's first name, I really hated it. But it's grown on me now, and I can't think of him as anything else.
I agree with Thor Damar, too, Corat seems a perfect fit for Damar.
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Old July 14 2011, 01:14 PM   #40
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Just gul is fine with me .
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Old July 14 2011, 02:07 PM   #41
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The Vulcans don't.
Don't Sarek and Spock have a surname that is impossible to pronounce by humans?
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Old July 17 2011, 02:02 AM   #42
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Re: Skrain or Elmo Dukat?

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I wonder if there's a group of people who would vehemently argue that Elmo Dukat is !!canon!! ...

Probably.

Nah.

But it is "Word of God."
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Old July 17 2011, 02:06 AM   #43
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Re: Skrain or Elmo Dukat?

Tosk wrote: View Post
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The Vulcans don't. The Tellarites have three names, I think, and the Klingons only have one name too. There's probably lots more with just one name.
Ferengi, and probably 80% of the one-off aliens we meet.
Give Treklit enough time, and all of them will end up having first and last names.
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Old July 17 2011, 02:14 AM   #44
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Re: Skrain or Elmo Dukat?

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I wonder if there's a group of people who would vehemently argue that Elmo Dukat is !!canon!! ...

Probably.

Nah.

But it is "Word of God."
Wasn't it sarcastic, though?

Even Treklit's "Skrain" carries more "force" than a clearly flip remark by TPTB. Not that either of them carry much force.
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Old July 29 2011, 01:58 AM   #45
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Re: Skrain or Elmo Dukat?

I never liked them almost using "Gul" as his first name.

At the start of the dominion war he was #1 in charge of Cardassia but still a Gul? huh? How would that have worked if a legate tried to give him orders?

Of course when Damar became leader he was instantly promoted to Legate.

Would it have made sense to have kept Sisko as a commander just because they liked how that rank sounded better? Actually given all the responsibilities sisko had toward the end (single-handedly planning the cardassian invasion, etc) he probably should have been made admiral.
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