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Old July 13 2011, 09:36 AM   #211
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Re: "James Bond 23" officially slated for 2012!

I like Cleese, but he might be a little old if they want to continue the Craig series for more than a few years (and at 71, he's defintiely too old if the writers want him more involved in the action).
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Old July 13 2011, 11:07 AM   #212
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Supposedly Naomie Harris for Moneypenny. I like it!


http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2011/...-naomie-harris
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Old July 13 2011, 01:58 PM   #213
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Supposedly Naomie Harris for Moneypenny. I like it!


http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2011/...-naomie-harris
Already posted a few days ago.
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Old July 14 2011, 01:40 AM   #214
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Sorry I can't keep track of which threads have what anymore.

I like the casting if it is indeed true. However, I do worry about a little bit of the racial and subservient imagery. While Jinx was great strides and this seems like such a sweet Moneypenny, I also feel a little hint of Live and Let Die blaxpotiation. Oh! the black girl who sleeps with Bond dies! And now the secretary is going to be the one who can never ever have Bond, the one black girl? Little stereotypical. Does this mean Salmon and Jeffrey Wright will have reduced capacities again, too? This also means no black actor can be Q, because heaven forbid they have two. Like you can't have a female Q as long as there is a female M. Eh.
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Old July 14 2011, 02:05 AM   #215
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And now the secretary is going to be the one who can never ever have Bond, the one black girl?
I'm sure they'll make up for that by making her SASSY
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Old July 14 2011, 07:36 AM   #216
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Also, Harris is considerably more beautiful than past Moneypennys; Lois Maxwell and Samantha Bond were hardly unattractive, but compared to the supermodel-level love interests they always looked quite ordinary.

Have you never seen Caroline Bliss?
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Old July 14 2011, 10:15 AM   #217
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Sorry I can't keep track of which threads have what anymore.

I like the casting if it is indeed true. However, I do worry about a little bit of the racial and subservient imagery. While Jinx was great strides and this seems like such a sweet Moneypenny, I also feel a little hint of Live and Let Die blaxpotiation. Oh! the black girl who sleeps with Bond dies! And now the secretary is going to be the one who can never ever have Bond, the one black girl? Little stereotypical. Does this mean Salmon and Jeffrey Wright will have reduced capacities again, too? This also means no black actor can be Q, because heaven forbid they have two. Like you can't have a female Q as long as there is a female M. Eh.
Oh for goodness sake!

If she's anything like Samantha Bond's MP then (closing minutes of DAD aside) it means she'll likely be more independant and less likely to fall for James' charms than any regular Bond girl (how many times did 007 have to save Jinx?)

As for Q, frankly I'd rather they made him of Indian/Pakistani descent like Deaver did given that people originating from South Asia actually make up a greater percentage of the UK population.
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Old July 17 2011, 11:50 AM   #218
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Coming on late, I like the idea of Naomi Harris as a Bond girl but I don't really see her as Moneypenny, at least not how MP has traditionally been portrayed. Nothing to do with race, it's the fact that Harris is a drop-dead gorgeous woman some years younger than Craig. Moneypenny has usually been a contemporary of Bond's, a handsome but not beautiful, woman of a certain age, who has a crush on 007.

Who could believe Naomi Harris as being hung up on Daniel Craig? She'd have her pick of any man. Fair enough if they want to reboot MP as being more independent and fiesty but would a character like that settle for being someone's secretary to begin with?
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Old July 17 2011, 12:16 PM   #219
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Who could believe Naomi Harris as being hung up on Daniel Craig?
He's James Bond - if you start to question why women instantly fall in love with him, you are either thinking too hard about it or watching the wrong film.

being someone's secretary to begin with?
She's the assistant to the head of the secret service not some guy who sells photocopiers. The PAs/secreataries to those types of high powered people often have MBAs, are highly intelligent etc etc - they aren't hired simply because they can type but because they can get things done - something that requires someone who is feisty and independent.
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Old July 17 2011, 10:14 PM   #220
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The Telegraph is saying Rhys Ifans (Who will also be in the Spider-Man reboot) has been cast.
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Old July 18 2011, 03:07 PM   #221
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^ Could he be Q? Possibly.
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Old July 18 2011, 03:19 PM   #222
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How about Ken Jeong as Q?
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Old July 18 2011, 03:22 PM   #223
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Could be. Craig has said that for his third film he wishes to have some of the more traditional Bond elements, and with Moneypenny in the movie Q should be in it as well. Hopefully though, they'll go for more practical gadgets to fit Craig's Bond (Which CR sort of had with the tracking device and the remote heart thing) like the FRWL briefcase and not invisible rocket-launching cars. Especially since the budget is apparentally going to be a bit lower this time.


Hopefully Bardem and Fiennes are the villains. While I like Craig's Bond and his films, the villains and henchmen have been sorely lacking with the exception of mr.white (Who due to Jesper Christensen's comments on the films might not be invited back).


I hope we have more solid casting/publicity for the film soon.
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Old July 18 2011, 03:39 PM   #224
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^Disagree. Mads Mikkelsen was phenomenal as Le Chiffre.
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Old July 18 2011, 03:45 PM   #225
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I wonder if Trek fans would get a kick out of John de Lancie playing Q.
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