X-MEN: FIRST CLASS - Grading+Discussion **SPOILERS!**

[Admiral_Young]

If this was an attempt at a total reboot of the franchise then there would be no point in going forward with "X4" which is still in development.

http://blastr.com/2011/03/producer-reveals-there-wi.php

[Skywalker]

Gaith wrote:

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No, no, requels are reboots that nevertheless pay homage in some fashion to that which has gone before (so says IGN Movies, anyway). See: The Incredible Hulk.

Yes, we said the same thing, only your description was overly wordy.

[KB24]

Interesting article talking about this year's superhero overload and the falling box office of comic book films.

http://movies.msn.com/paralleluniver...-the-universe/

And it looks like First Class has now fallen out of the Top 10 this weekend. I guess final numbers will be out tomorrow late. I really don't understand the appeal of Transformers. It took me three times to figure out what was going on in the trailer, and that was 2 minutes. If the entire movie is like that, geez.

http://www.filmofilia.com/2011/07/03...july-2-4-2011/

[Guy Gardener]

The new Transformers movie is considerably better than the last two.

I despised the first two.

[Samurai8472]

KB24 wrote:

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I really don't understand the appeal of Transformers.

-Hot girls

-Hot cars

-Lots of explosions

-Turn your brain off for 2 1/2 hours

[KB24]

^Nah, none of that is my style.

This is like that scene in Hot Tub Time Machine where the boy wants to facebook, text, or even phone the girl and she says 'Come and find me' and he says 'But that's too hard!' Is it too much effort to expect good film? The better the film the better the escape, right? If something is mindless, how can that be fun? Isn't that boring?

Although, I'm watching She-Ra right now, so that might cancel me out

[Guy Gardener]

Can you explain how she's He-Man's twin Sister from another planet yet?

Stoned out of their minds people wrote those toons.

Bay was just asleep.

[KB24]

Yeah eighties toons are totally preposterous if you think about the finite stuff, but they're all in good fun. And honestly, they explain how she's he's twin from another planet pretty clearly in the introductory cross over movie.

I don't like how Bay takes a good premise and dumbs it down for the hot cars girls and booms. I'm glad First Class didn't go that route the way Green Lantern looks all flash and no substance. I'm tired of flash without merit.

[Guy Gardener]

I was thinking about First Class during transformers when Kennedy showed up and then about some recent episodes of Doctor Who when Nixon turned up. The first half of the movie was about conspiracy theories and secrets and then there's just this moment of transition half way through where it (I think that Michael must have farmed out the first half of the movie) just turns to shit and no one does anything for any sensible reason to justify explosions and and that chippy running around half naked... Although it was a little sweet when Optimus Prime says "Kill them all." That's shit which bad guys say, but that Droid was well past his breaking point and needed to end it all.

[Captain Craig]

KB24 wrote:

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Interesting article talking about this year's superhero overload and the falling box office of comic book films.

http://movies.msn.com/paralleluniver...-the-universe/

The question I have is whether the writer of this piece is right about the studios view of Losers, Kick Ass and Scott Pilgrim from last year. If he's right and that is a reason, or THE reason, the studios chose not to come to Comic-Con it shows the sheer sense of misplaced expectation on those properties.

The roots of this go back to 2010, when several non-superhero films that were nonetheless based on comic books or graphic novels -- "Kick-Ass," "The Losers" and "Scott Pilgrim vs. the World" -- failed to light up the box office. "Kick-Ass" did OK relative to its cost, but "The Losers" sank quickly from sight, and "Scott Pilgrim" was a bomb of epic proportions, earning just $30 million despite a massive promotional push that included a literal takeover of last year's Comic-Con. If we look back even further, 2009's "Watchmen" underperformed despite its acclaimed source material and an equally aggressive marketing campaign.

So then with these C-grade properties(not counting Watchmen) how could they overlook how RED did in October of 2010. I notice that isn't in the article. It should be if it's talking about Kick-Ass doing well relative to cost. Red certainly did. That would mean these C-grade properties were 2-2 then. Forgetting things like this irritates me. It's either bad journalism or biased journalism. Worse, did the studios think like this writer? If so their vision is askew.


As for X-Men:FC it's exit from the top 10 was expected. Was hoping it might hit $140m over the weekend but fell just a tad short.

[Guy Gardener]

The only reason Scott Pilgrim could fail, did fail, is if people suck.

The experience was nothing short of fanjoyous.

[Admiral_Young]

That's the risk that filmmakers make when adapting "cult" indy comics like "Kick-Ass" and "Scott Pilgrim". There's a reason why they're indy comics in the first place. They also had a large internet hype that didn't for whatever reason translate into the mainstream movie audience. People missed out on great films as far as I'm concerned. No different than people not going to see "Oscar" films.

[KB24]

Rumors of First Class sequels behind closed door supposedly. Hopefully!

http://blogs.coventrytelegraph.net/t...es-discus.html

Yes if you are going to make a lesser known comic book into a movie, I think you have to realistically place your expectations. Some of the stuff you listed I didn't even know were comics! Anyway, it isn't like studios are slowing down their superhero output anytime soon.

[JD]

Is the Deadpool movie using the character as seen in XO:W or is it a new version of the character? I'm pretty sure I've heard the later, but I'm not sure.

[Pauln6]

I watched Scott Pilgrim last night and it was great. Maybe it was just too surreal for a mainstream audience but the characters were hilarious.