X-MEN: FIRST CLASS - Grading+Discussion **SPOILERS!**

[Admiral_Young]

^ ^ That's what I've been suggesting and what my wish would be.

[Captaindemotion]

^ I just don't see that happening. My expectation would be a sequel to FC or, if that doesn't prove sucessful enough for a sequel, there'll be a reboot of X-Men. I can't see them opting to make a sequel to X-Men, some 5 - 6 years down the line, given the way it left the characters and given the ages of Stewart and McKellen. I think that time has passed.

[JacksonArcher]

An ostensible X4 doesn't have to feature Xavier or Magneto. It could feature some of the younger mutants, especially since Xavier is supposedly "dead" and Magneto is depowered. There are ways to make it work. However, I agree that a sequel to First Class is more likely.

[Captaindemotion]

^ If they go that way, younger mutants etc, what's to distinguish it from First Class? At least a sequel to FC would build on the goodwill and critical acclaim from that movie. Yet a further X-Men crew, with more unknown actors and characters would face the same problems as FC.

[Captain Craig]

At least the movies done decent enough for sequel talk to be in play with the old adage of DVD sales.

I just don't buy the GL sequel talk, the $$$ isn't right.

[Captaindemotion]

^ Apparently WB are planning one, though.

[Captain Craig]

I plan to marry a supermodel also. Doing so is another matter.

Seriously, though if they actually do it I'll be shocked. I think they are just talking it up as a way to counteract the bad WOM. As if to say, "Hey, it's not done as bad as you've heard. We're doing a sequel check this movie out."

[Captaindemotion]

^ You could be right. I'm planning ( that word again) to see it, bad reviews notwithstanding.

[JacksonArcher]

Captaindemotion wrote:

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^ If they go that way, younger mutants etc, what's to distinguish it from First Class? At least a sequel to FC would build on the goodwill and critical acclaim from that movie. Yet a further X-Men crew, with more unknown actors and characters would face the same problems as FC.

Well, the advantage of an X4 would mean you could secure Hugh Jackman and Halle Berry again, who were the real draws of the first three movies (at least to mainstream audiences).

We could see more familiar faces like Anna Paquin (Rogue), Shawn Ashmore (Iceman) and Daniel Cudmore (Colossus). You could even bring back mutants like Alan Cumming (Nightcrawler) and Kelsey Grammer (Beast).

Plus, if Singer (or whoever directs the movie) is adventurous, he could try and rectify some of the deaths of the last movie and somehow bring back James Marsden (who was never really shown as dead) and Famke Janssen but that's entirely up to Singer, the writers, the producers and 20th Century Fox.

Like I said, I think a sequel to X-Men: First Class is much more likely at this point, but there's still a lot of interest and potential with an X4 that could make it very viable, at least for the studio (especially if Shuler-Donner can sway Singer to direct).

[Captaindemotion]

^ You could be right. But Halle would cost a fortune to get back and Rogue lost her powers in X3 (not to mention that Anna is tied up with True Blood). I don't see Ashmore or Cudmore putting a lot of bums on seats and Cumming has made clear his hatred of the make up process.

My main reason for not expecting a sequel is that studios tend to think audiences have the attention span of a gnat and find it easier to reboot than make sequels. The more successful Spider-man movies are being rebooted after a shorter gap and with a more open-ended 3rd movie. Superman, Hulk, Punisher, Ghost Rider and - apparently - Fantastic Four and Daredevil are also being rebooted, after shorter gaps than there's been since X3. I'd be surprised if X4 bucked the trend.

of course, we're broadly in agreement here anyway!

[JacksonArcher]

I don't see 20th Century Fox rebooting the franchise. If they wanted to do that, they would have done that after X-Men: The Last Stand.

Apparently they were considering that with X-Men: First Class until Bryan Singer came on-board. It was going to essentially reboot the series with younger versions of Cyclops, Jean, Iceman, Beast, etc. when Josh Schwartz was writing it and then Singer pitched his version which then tied back into the original trilogy.

Now with First Class and The Wolverine (featuring Hugh Jackman as Wolverine), I think it would be much more difficult for Fox to reboot the series now than when The Last Stand debuted in 2006. I mean, they had an opportunity to do that with First Class (which would have ended the "Singerverse" with X-Men Origins: Wolverine) but they clearly opted to continue that universe.

Honestly, I think we'll see a sequel to First Class. I'm sure the film will do well in box office receipts and 20th Century Fox will green-light a sequel. If The Wolverine wasn't in development, then I would be a bit less confident. Unless 20th Century Fox plans to reboot the series after The Wolverine, which could conceivably happen if that movie bombs.

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

Uh, this IS a reboot

[JacksonArcher]

Flying Spaghetti Monster wrote:

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Uh, this IS a reboot

Not really.

[Skywalker]

It's a preboot. Part prequel, part reboot.

Partial reboots set after the original movie are called requels.

[JacksonArcher]

Skywalker wrote:

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It's a preboot. Part prequel, part reboot.

Partial reboots set after the original movie are called requels.

You better patent that.