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View Poll Results: How would you grade Green Lantern?
A+ 5 3.52%
A 7 4.93%
A- 11 7.75%
B+ 20 14.08%
B 18 12.68%
B- 23 16.20%
C+ 10 7.04%
C 15 10.56%
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D 3 2.11%
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Old June 26 2011, 06:07 PM   #331
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Having seen GL again this evening, I found again that since there's no longer much point in worrying about the box office it's more fun to watch.
Normally when I go see a movie I don't factor the box office into my enjoyment of it.

Weird.
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Old June 26 2011, 06:14 PM   #332
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Saw the movie again, still liked it. My only problem this time-- especially after rewatching the animated movies-- was just how cold and unfriendly Oa and the Guardians seemed in comparison. It just doesn't really seem like the kind of place you'd want to visit, let alone be a member of.

It's a shame we couldn't have seen some of the great camaraderie between Lanterns that we saw in the animated films.
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Old June 26 2011, 06:15 PM   #333
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1/3600th of the universe is a little larger than one solar system.

I was more interested in noticing larger implications of the DCU that could see the JLA forming at some point.

God forbid his best pal "Green Arrow"?

I rewatched the Flash recently, and in one episode Barry calls a nosey reporter Lois Lane, who was not Lois Lane of course but the character "Linda Park" which makes you wonder if there was a Superman saving the world in that show every week too but slightly off camera?

Which would be millions of dollars in licensing.

But how much could Jimmy Olsen or Etta Candy cost?
Linda Park was/is a character from The Flash comic books. She was Wally West's love interest, and also a reporter. So... He wasn't calling "Lois Lane" but Linda Park.
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Old June 26 2011, 07:48 PM   #334
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Well, I would have taken this girl... As "Hannah Jordan", with a suit not entirely unlike this...

And given her a love interest, pictured below, who, at a Halloween party, wears this...
Is your solution to everything "needs more lipstick lesbians"?
And "shit blowing up." Don't forget "shit blowing up."

But, look. I live with a lipstick lesbian I love like a sister. She's smart, kind, funny, an all-around good person, and when she falls in love, she falls for other women. She also likes action/adventure movies, and I know for a fact that she'd be interested in a good genre movie with a girl-girl romance.

Now, just once, I'd like to see her goodness and love honored by Hollywood in a big, fun movie where lots of shit blows up.

Are we wrong, sir?
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Old June 26 2011, 11:59 PM   #335
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1/3600th of the universe is a little larger than one solar system.

I was more interested in noticing larger implications of the DCU that could see the JLA forming at some point.

God forbid his best pal "Green Arrow"?

I rewatched the Flash recently, and in one episode Barry calls a nosey reporter Lois Lane, who was not Lois Lane of course but the character "Linda Park" which makes you wonder if there was a Superman saving the world in that show every week too but slightly off camera?

Which would be millions of dollars in licensing.

But how much could Jimmy Olsen or Etta Candy cost?
Linda Park was/is a character from The Flash comic books. She was Wally West's love interest, and also a reporter. So... He wasn't calling "Lois Lane" but Linda Park.
Wally didn't exist in this TV show, or at least Barry dumped Iris West (Portrayed by a VERY young Paula Marshall) after the pilot, before she could introduce her nephew to Barry Allen in some feasible way that they couldn't have a relationship with Barry after the fact without it smelling a
little paedophililly like in Back to the Future.

Barry used the phrase "Lois Lane" (in this context) as a synonym from "plucky reporter" in reference to a recurring (Imdb says that she was only in the pilot, but just watched it. She was in at least 4 or 5 episodes) character called Linda Park who was probably Korean and more than likely a well maintained plus 50 years old. A touch long in the tooth to shine Kid Flash's cherry... Wait. This is 1990. This Linda Park SERIOUSLY predates the comics (Flash #28, 1989) ...Okay, so she doesn't, but the TV appearance might predate the romantic relationship? She was just a Flash hating foil in the beginning, and it was Tina McGee who was Wally's sweet heart thenabouts who Barry stole for the TV show.

I love Paula Marshall.

Either Lois lane is a real person in TV-Flash continuity, in the same way someone says to an up and coming "lady" (the sexism is positively dripping off the walls down here) journalist that they are a regular "Diane Sawyer" or "Katie Kouric" or Lois Lane is still a work of fiction in Superman comics, who are both works of fiction in the TV-Flash Universe and 'Lois Lane" was a pop-culture reference like say "Brenda Starr".

What the fuck was Brooke Shields thinking?
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Old June 27 2011, 12:57 AM   #336
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Just saw it this afternoon. I went in not knowing much about the Green Lantern, having never read the comics, and I enjoyed it a great deal, in fact between this and Thor, I enjoyed this a lot more.

This has probably already been covered in this discussion thread, but I couldn't help notice some similarities to the final season of Smallville. A super hero in waiting who is unsure about accepting his destiny. The super vilian who feeds on the emotions of his victims. That all felt familiar to me. But I really enjoyed it. Rated it an A.
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Old June 27 2011, 01:22 AM   #337
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1/3600th of the universe is a little larger than one solar system.

I was more interested in noticing larger implications of the DCU that could see the JLA forming at some point.

God forbid his best pal "Green Arrow"?

I rewatched the Flash recently, and in one episode Barry calls a nosey reporter Lois Lane, who was not Lois Lane of course but the character "Linda Park" which makes you wonder if there was a Superman saving the world in that show every week too but slightly off camera?

Which would be millions of dollars in licensing.

But how much could Jimmy Olsen or Etta Candy cost?
Linda Park was/is a character from The Flash comic books. She was Wally West's love interest, and also a reporter. So... He wasn't calling "Lois Lane" but Linda Park.
Wally didn't exist in this TV show, or at least Barry dumped Iris West (Portrayed by a VERY young Paula Marshall) after the pilot, before she could introduce her nephew to Barry Allen in some feasible way that they couldn't have a relationship with Barry after the fact without it smelling a
little paedophililly like in Back to the Future.
Duh. Of course Wally wasn't in the show. That wasn't my point. Wally's series was going on at the time and the borrowed quite a few things from his series for the TV. For example, how the Flash's powers worked. At the time, Wally needed to eat a lot, just like TV Barry did.

They borrowed the character from the comic book.


Barry used the phrase "Lois Lane" (in this context) as a synonym from "plucky reporter" in reference to a recurring (Imdb says that she was only in the pilot, but just watched it. She was in at least 4 or 5 episodes) character called Linda Park who was probably Korean and more than likely a well maintained plus 50 years old. A touch long in the tooth to shine Kid Flash's cherry... Wait. This is 1990. This Linda Park SERIOUSLY predates the comics (Flash #28, 1989) ...Okay, so she doesn't, but the TV appearance might predate the romantic relationship? She was just a Flash hating foil in the beginning, and it was Tina McGee who was Wally's sweet heart thenabouts who Barry stole for the TV show.
You're babbling. And you're not making much sense... You're trying to somehow fit TV continuity into the Comic Book continuity... as if they aren't two separate properties that share ideas...

...so, I'll let you go on with your madness...
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Old June 27 2011, 01:24 AM   #338
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This has probably already been covered in this discussion thread, but I couldn't help notice some similarities to the final season of Smallville. A super hero in waiting who is unsure about accepting his destiny. The super vilian who feeds on the emotions of his victims. That all felt familiar to me. But I really enjoyed it. Rated it an A.
To be a hero you have to over come obstacles, difficult obstacles from within and without.

Unfortunately, most internal obstacles are a little pathetic to other people.

What the Frakk was Hal Jordan afraid of?

Mortality? Frakking up? Success?

The lad had fear for fears sake he was afraid of.

Frakk him.

But is that better than being a head job who is afraid of nothing, who would eat his own feat to win a bar bet?

Sinestro had no fear.

Which means that he had no reason NOT to put the Yellow Ring on.

Why did Sinestro put the Yellow Ring On?

BECAUSE IT WAS THERE!
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Old June 27 2011, 01:42 AM   #339
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You're babbling. And you're not making much sense... You're trying to somehow fit TV continuity into the Comic Book continuity... as if they aren't two separate properties that share ideas...

...so, I'll let you go on with your madness...
I'm making perfect sense.

Now before I checked my spelling for the third time, that was a mess.

All I wanted to fuss over was if one throwaway line, meant that half way across the country Superman was having his origin as well in the TV-Flash Universe?

There was mention of a Museum Curator named Carter Hall in the second episode, which meant that Hawkman was swooping about somewhere in the TV-Flash Universe.

You've never had a fangasm?

And the only reason I mentioned that is because such a melting pot would have been fabulous in this Green Lantern movie too, perhaps if Carol talked about how Wayne Industries or Lex Corp tried to cockblock her in a deal last month?

Criss cross.
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Old June 27 2011, 01:56 AM   #340
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"Green Lantern 2" is still on track despite the "soft" box office.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/06/...till-on-track/


This might be one of the rare times where I absolutely agree with Guy Gardner. Sinstro demonstrated throughout the course of the movie that he had no fear. He constantly ripped Hal for having fear and being a coward. Unless we were supposed to "Get in the head of the character" and some how realize that this is Sinestro actually being the one afraid then they did a poor job of writing the character to convey that. Sinestro was a great disappointment to me despite a fine performance by Mark Strong who captured all of his mannerisms. I got a big thrill when I saw him landing with his arms crossed over his shoulder...other than that though Sinestro was depicted incorrectly. I agree that it made no sense for him to put on the ring at the end of the post-credit scene other than the fact that we all know that he is supposed to. This is another case of the first movie feeling rushed and jam packed with story beats that we know are eventually paid off down the road.
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Old June 27 2011, 02:09 AM   #341
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That report, which is sourced to The Hollywood Reporter - still a pretty reliable trade source, not a fanboy comic book wanksite (read: comicbookmovie.com) - shocks me a bit. I thought the 66% dropoff this weekend would have the WB suits quietly declining to talk about the future, not reaffirming their support for GL.

I can make up business-type rationalizations that make this sound logical, if not plausible, but I sure wouldn't want to post them because after this weekend they'd be a reach.

I thought Sinestro was one of the highlights of the film. He comes across as arrogant but honest. It has been rumored (stress that word) that if a sequel when forward it would turn out that what happened to Abin Sur and why it ultimately happened (the Guardians tinkering around with sketchy stuff - shades of the Manhunters - sending Sur to handle it and then keeping it a secret) cause him to consider them unfit to police the Universe and so he decides to create his own force initially as an alternative.
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Old June 27 2011, 02:29 AM   #342
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That report, which is sourced to The Hollywood Reporter - still a pretty reliable trade source, not a fanboy comic book wanksite (read: comicbookmovie.com) - shocks me a bit. I thought the 66% dropoff this weekend would have the WB suits quietly declining to talk about the future, not reaffirming their support for GL.
Agreed. As much as I'd love to see a sequel, I thought the lack of turnout made it pretty clear that there just wasn't enough interest out there for the character.

Of course, this could just be the WB trying to save face a bit. With the movie only being in theaters a week, they're not about to admit defeat so early-- especially after all the money that's been put into it. I expect in a few months the sequel plans will be quietly dropped, and we'll never hear another word about it.
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Of course, this could just be the WB trying to save face a bit. With the movie only being in theaters a week, they're not about to admit defeat so early...
The PR is over as of the last big full page newspaper ad this weekend. What they would do now is get quiet and noncommittal, and place the project in turnaround a few weeks or months down the road - businesspeople don't have to "save face" before the public in this context (they're not politicians and the interests they serve aren't much swayed by chatter) and certainly nothing is served by talking anonymously - "sources close to" etc - about a sequel. If anything that makes them look foolish to their peers unless they actually have plans (which may also make them look foolish, but in that case at least they have a reason to risk it).

One operative question is just how committed Warners is to the notion that they have to mine their comics properties to create franchises in the next ten years - they don't have very many ways to go, there. If GL doesn't work you can bet no one's going to greenlight The Flash.
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Old June 27 2011, 02:43 AM   #344
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Well, I would have taken this girl... As "Hannah Jordan", with a suit not entirely unlike this...

And given her a love interest, pictured below, who, at a Halloween party, wears this...
Is your solution to everything "needs more lipstick lesbians"?
And "shit blowing up." Don't forget "shit blowing up."

But, look. I live with a lipstick lesbian I love like a sister. She's smart, kind, funny, an all-around good person, and when she falls in love, she falls for other women. She also likes action/adventure movies, and I know for a fact that she'd be interested in a good genre movie with a girl-girl romance.

Now, just once, I'd like to see her goodness and love honored by Hollywood in a big, fun movie where lots of shit blows up.

Are we wrong, sir?
No...but you are wrong and I don't believe a damn thing you say for one moment...if a relationship happens in a film...it needs to happen naturally and not forced...which is how most Hollywood relations happen(Forced). "Lesbian" doesn't mean "butch, "Lipstick" or "whatever" it is two gender female falling in love...not for exploitative reasons...but love...like real life...which you seem to have zero grasp of.
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"Hannah Jordan" is a nonstarter - it might make some folks feel good, but it doesn't service the right demographics. Fuck, Warners doesn't even know what to do with Wonder Woman, much less inventing new female characters that teen boys won't buy into as action heroes.

The folks at Warners do not perceive Reynolds as being the problem with this movie, whatever Nikki Finke (a smart reporter) might surmise. They may be right or wrong, but Hollywood's still betting on him (in the last six days Universal's firmed up a feature deal with him for 2013, and in the same timeframe he's partnered with Allan Loeb to develop first-look projects for Fox), and everyone expects Lively to go on to great things.
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