Green Lantern: Grading, Review, Discuss, Tracking, Sequel? - Page 21

Admiral Buzzkill · June 25 2011, 06:30 AM

StarTrek1701 wrote:

Precisely. And if Parallax actually has the power for FTL travel, which by itself is kinda preposterous, he should have been able to devour the entire population of Earth in less than a second...etc, etc.

And which part of this is less plausible and less logical than what happens every month in the comics?

None of it. Not one bit.

If Green Lantern can't be a successful movie, then it can't - but this movie was observant and faithful to the spirit and most of the details of the Green Lantern comic. Maybe they need to make it something else to succeed on the big screen. Maybe they need to cast Keanu Reeves as Kyle Rayner or something, or Woody Harrellson as Guy Gardner blowing everything the fuck up.

I liked this one. I'm going to see it in 3D again tomorrow evening.

Gaith · June 25 2011, 07:22 AM

Professor Zoom wrote:

The Asteroid Belt ISN"T between the Earth and the Sun.

?!?

Ladies and gentlemen, we have a new movie that's less science-friendly than The Core!

Admiral_Young · June 25 2011, 07:28 AM

@Professor Zoom...I wouldn't call "Green Lantern" "X3" awful...it has it's flaws, most of which you mentioned in your post but I would see and have seen "Green Lantern" multiple times. "X3" I've seen twice and refuse to watch again.

Dream · June 25 2011, 07:28 AM

Anyone else they will replace Hal with John Stewart as the GL for the Justice League, if that movie ever gets made?

Mr. Laser Beam · June 25 2011, 07:31 AM

Dennis wrote:

Woody Harrelson as Guy Gardner blowing everything the fuck up.

Nah, if they have Guy in a sequel, I'm thinking Christopher Meloni.

If Elliot Stabler were a GL, he'd be Guy.

Guy Gardener · June 25 2011, 09:10 AM

What about Damien Lewis from Life?

Quite the talented ginger.

Jax · June 25 2011, 01:28 PM

The movie is set to drop by 70% in its 2nd weekend and with oversea $$$ still to get going, GL better use that ring to conjuer up some fans

. Its North America gross will be around $91 million so at this rate it might only make $130ish at best so the worldwide total is now very important.

The budget was always too high IMO for an unknown comic book hero to the mainstream public.

Admiral Buzzkill · June 25 2011, 02:11 PM

No, Deadline estimates closer to 60% for the weekend - the Friday drop was just over 70%. Not great - FC dropped 56% in the second week; Thor less than 50%. GL held up well during the week, so that helps.

plynch · June 25 2011, 05:06 PM

Dennis wrote:

Makes all the sense in the world, for Sinestro.

(I'm stealing from a reviewer)

Not the Sinestro as we see him in this film. He's the best character in a goodness sense. Internal logic doesn't support him donning the ring. Some hints needed to be dropped about a character flaw, or even showing him feeling seduced by it a la Bilbo.

IIRC, you just see him putting it on. Why? So he can become evil for the sequel, is all. I liked the move in general for its not-so-pretentiousness, but the Sinestro-ring thing did need a touch of characte develpment to explain it, IMO.

Shazam! · June 25 2011, 05:22 PM

Unless the Sinestro putting the ring on scene is like, two-thirds into the sequel.

Professor Zoom · June 25 2011, 05:36 PM

Dennis wrote:

StarTrek1701 wrote:

Precisely. And if Parallax actually has the power for FTL travel, which by itself is kinda preposterous, he should have been able to devour the entire population of Earth in less than a second...etc, etc.

And which part of this is less plausible and less logical than what happens every month in the comics?

None of it. Not one bit.

Yeah... it happens in EVERY comic EVERY month?

I'm sorry, Dennis, but, come on, not EVERY comic is this stupid. Sure, there are stupid comics with shallow characterization, and if you want to compare this movie to shallow poorly comics, fine. But there ARE good comics out there, like there are GOOD comic book movies.

If Green Lantern can't be a successful movie, then it can't - but this movie was observant and faithful to the spirit and most of the details of the Green Lantern comic.

And I agree with that actually. The details of the corps, etc, were accurate. But, movie making isn't just about getting facts right--well, except where the asteroid belt is--it's about character and story telling.

Maybe they need to make it something else to succeed on the big screen. Maybe they need to cast Keanu Reeves as Kyle Rayner or something, or Woody Harrellson as Guy Gardner blowing everything the fuck up.

Ryan Reynolds isn't to blame. The script (which seems to have had a lot of hands) and the direction are to blame. They didn't need to change casts, but change directors.

I liked this one. I'm going to see it in 3D again tomorrow evening.

I'm glad. I'm going to go see Super 8.

Admiral_Young wrote:

@Professor Zoom...I wouldn't call "Green Lantern" "X3" awful...it has it's flaws, most of which you mentioned in your post but I would see and have seen "Green Lantern" multiple times. "X3" I've seen twice and refuse to watch again.

You might not. But, I would. I can't believe you saw X3 TWICE? Once wasn't punishment enough?! It took you TWO TIMES to refuse to watch it again? I don't get that.

And, yeah, I do think Green Lantern is worse. X3's biggest crime was character assassination. (And Wolverine deciding to fly, or bike back across the US to warn the X-men, rather than... I don't know, making a phone call.)

Green Lantern was just idiotic. They took all the beats of every other action/comic book movie (and not even the good beats) and put them into Green Lantern. For god's sake, they even had that moment where the Hero just barely saves a civilian who has to be told to RUN! Really? REALLY? A giant CGI cloud is approaching you and you STILL need to be told to RUN?

Captain Craig · June 25 2011, 05:54 PM

Dennis wrote:

No, Deadline estimates closer to 60% for the weekend - the Friday drop was just over 70%. Not great - FC dropped 56% in the second week; Thor less than 50%. GL held up well during the week, so that helps.

Deadlines early estimates, which typically tend to be on the high side, show a 63% drop. The way GL has been going it's going to be more like 64-65%. So you saying it's closer to 60 is as accurate as me saying it's closer to 65%, which I'd be it's going to be. Thus putting it in league with Ang Lee's Hulk and Jonah Hex aka bad company.

T'Baio · June 25 2011, 07:15 PM

Admiral_Young wrote:

@Professor Zoom...I wouldn't call "Green Lantern" "X3" awful...it has it's flaws, most of which you mentioned in your post but I would see and have seen "Green Lantern" multiple times. "X3" I've seen twice and refuse to watch again.

I hate to say it, but Green Lantern is just as bad and stupid as X3.

Lieut. Arex · June 25 2011, 07:51 PM

Saw this for the second time yesterday. While it's far from perfect, I came away feeling better about the movie than I did after the first. The look is great, the CGI uniform works well on screen and in motion. The casting and performances are fine. Gave it a B- in the poll, largely because of the screenplay. It hits the notes of the Green Lantern origin as filtered through Emerald Dawn and Secret Origin, but feels more like an uninspired cover of that song rather than the stronger original.

UssGlenn · June 25 2011, 11:11 PM

In addition to the misplacement of the asteroid belt, it was also the super dense kind. Of course dense asteroid belts are a staple in fiction, still annoying though. This one seemed particularly narrow and dense however.

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June 25 2011, 07:28 AM	#303
Admiral_Young Fleet Admiral Location: Metropolis	Re: Green Lantern: Grading, Review, Discuss, Tracking, Sequel? @Professor Zoom...I wouldn't call "Green Lantern" "X3" awful...it has it's flaws, most of which you mentioned in your post but I would see and have seen "Green Lantern" multiple times. "X3" I've seen twice and refuse to watch again. __________________ Admiral Young Chief of Operations Ignoring the The Last Stand since 2011.

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June 25 2011, 09:10 AM	#306
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Jax Admiral Location: The United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland	Re: Green Lantern: Grading, Review, Discuss, Tracking, Sequel? The movie is set to drop by 70% in its 2nd weekend and with oversea $$$ still to get going, GL better use that ring to conjuer up some fans . Its North America gross will be around $91 million so at this rate it might only make $130ish at best so the worldwide total is now very important. The budget was always too high IMO for an unknown comic book hero to the mainstream public. __________________ Brave (B) Great & Powerful Oz (B-) Hunger Games (B-) American Reunion (B) Milk (B-) The Insider (B+) The Rainmaker (B-) God Bless America (B-) It's Kind of a Funny Story (B-) Iron Man 3 (B+) Star Trek Into Darkness (A-)

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June 25 2011, 02:11 PM	#308
Admiral Buzzkill The Man Location: Defying Gravity	Re: Green Lantern: Grading, Review, Discuss, Tracking, Sequel? No, Deadline estimates closer to 60% for the weekend - the Friday drop was just over 70%. Not great - FC dropped 56% in the second week; Thor less than 50%. GL held up well during the week, so that helps. __________________ I had steak and a loaded baked potato for dinner on Sunday. As a steak I enjoyed it a lot, but as macaroni and cheese I thought it was disappointing.

June 25 2011, 05:22 PM	#310
Shazam! Rear Admiral	Re: Green Lantern: Grading, Review, Discuss, Tracking, Sequel? Unless the Sinestro putting the ring on scene is like, two-thirds into the sequel.

June 25 2011, 07:51 PM	#314
Lieut. Arex Fleet Captain Location: Nav console	Re: Green Lantern: Grading, Review, Discuss, Tracking, Sequel? Saw this for the second time yesterday. While it's far from perfect, I came away feeling better about the movie than I did after the first. The look is great, the CGI uniform works well on screen and in motion. The casting and performances are fine. Gave it a B- in the poll, largely because of the screenplay. It hits the notes of the Green Lantern origin as filtered through Emerald Dawn and Secret Origin, but feels more like an uninspired cover of that song rather than the stronger original.

June 25 2011, 11:11 PM	#315
UssGlenn Captain Location: New Orleans, LA	Re: Green Lantern: Grading, Review, Discuss, Tracking, Sequel? In addition to the misplacement of the asteroid belt, it was also the super dense kind. Of course dense asteroid belts are a staple in fiction, still annoying though. This one seemed particularly narrow and dense however. __________________ "What are you going to do?" "I don't know. I'm making this up as I go."