vampires

[Kosh Naranek]

You will have to tell me what you think.

[timothy]

half way through vampire diaries and so loving it. favorite girl in the series is bonnie the witch chick she is so hot. ellana is cute and thank god she not like bella from the twilight saga. at least this girl is cute and likeable. steffan is to much like angel in my opinion. I like daemon for an ass hole he play's it great. and for some reason he reminds me of tom cruise.


all so vampire diaries season 2 on blu ray will be out on aug. 30 2011.
can't wait till it gets here I am so behind on this show.

S2 is way better than S1.

[Temis the Vorta]

I'm checking out TVD and finding it hard to maintain interest. Ian Sommerhalder is a hoot, but nothing else interests me about it. I'll browse thru S1 (I am curious about the historical stuff) and maybe delve into S2 - how is it an improvement?

More historical stuff...less teeny bopper high school crap...at some points you'd think they all dropped out.

[edit] And some interesting new characters are introduced.

[timothy]

late night on the cw this saturday Elvira's movie macabe -'the satanic rites of dracula".has any one seen this?

[Greg Cox]

timothy wrote:

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late night on the cw this saturday Elvira's movie macabe -'the satanic rites of dracula".has any one seen this?

Honestly, that's not one of the better Hammer DRACULA flicks. It was Christopher Lee's last time as Dracula and the series had kind of run out of steam by that point, even though they tried to update the formula by setting it in contemporary times and having motorcycles chases and things. Dracula is out to destroy the world like a James Bond villain and a modern-day descendent of Van Helsing tries to stop him . . . .

Still, it reunites Cushing and Lee for the first time since HORROR OF DRACULA so there's that . . . .

[MLJames]

Is that the one where Dracula is silent, because Lee thought the script was so bad he refused to speak the lines? I know it was one of the later ones, but I'm not sure which one.

[Chemahkuu]

timothy wrote:

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late night on the cw this saturday Elvira's movie macabe -'the satanic rites of dracula".has any one seen this?

Its the only Hammer Dracula I do not have, and don't plan to have, in my DVD collection. I know the series declined in later years, but generally the films were still enjoyable on some level, "Scars" and "AD 1972" gave Lee more lines and it worked, some spookier moments.

But "Rites" was terrible, just plain terrible, Lee himself regretted ever being in it and had most of his dialogue cut in one way or another. The series should have ended with 'Scars of Dracula' really.

[Greg Cox]

MLJames wrote:

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Is that the one where Dracula is silent, because Lee thought the script was so bad he refused to speak the lines? I know it was one of the later ones, but I'm not sure which one.

That happened a lot, I think. He has NO dialogue at all in Prince of Darkness, and very little dialogue in many of the later films.

Honestly, I think the films made a mistake after Horror by not bothering to have Dracula pose as human anymore, which meant that Lee had fewer opportunites to act and exchange dialogue with his co-stars. He's all vampire, all the time, which means that often he's treated more like a monster than a character. Lee does his best to invest the character with some sort of personality, but he's basically a Great White Shark with a cape, who just lurks in the shadows waiting to bite people . . . .

Oh, the bibliographer in me feels obliged to point out that SATANIC RITES OF DRACULAS was also released as COUNT DRACULA AND HIS VAMPIRE BRIDE.

[Chemahkuu]

^Thats why Scars of Dracula was moderately better, he was again pretending to be Human and conversing with several of the other characters for a good chunk of the film. AD 72 tried, slightly, to do this again but not so much.

[Greg Cox]

I haven't seen Scars in years. I forgot about that one.

Not letting Lee do anything more than hiss and snarl at people was such a waste. He can do urbane, suave, witty, etc. Just look at the THE WICKER MAN or THE DEVIL'S BRIDE.

[timothy]

is there a list of lee's dracula movie's? and are they in any partiicular order?

[Greg Cox]

timothy wrote:

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is there a list of lee's dracula movie's? and are they in any partiicular order?

The continuity is a bit loose, but, just off the top of my head.

Horror of Dracula
Brides of Dracula (no Lee, only Cushing)
Dracula, Prince of Darkness
Dracula Has Risen from the Grave
Taste the Blood of Dracula
Scars of Dracula
Dracula AD. 1972
The Satanic Rites of Dracula

One more film, The Legend of the 7 Golden Vampires, is arguably part of the series, but features a different actor as Dracula. It's also known as "The Seven Brothers versus Dracula."

I'm pretty sure that's the right sequence. Brides is probably my favorite of the bunch, even though Dracula doesn't actually appear in it. (Dr. Van Helsing goes after one of Dracula's disciples--because Lee wasn't available!)

[timothy]

now are these sequals to the original dracual?