X-MEN: FIRST CLASS - Grading+Discussion **SPOILERS!**

[KB24]

Have to catch up with the conversation at hand again, but this link was sent to me and I thought it was amusing.

X-Men: First Class or Inglourious Basterds? Same film, apparently

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment...inglourio.html

[Broccoli]

I enjoyed X-Men: The Last Stand. It was a very serviceable action film.

[Dream]

Broccoli wrote:

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I enjoyed X-Men: The Last Stand. It was a very serviceable action film.

Let me guess, you also liked that shitty Wolverine movie.

[Broccoli]

No. Wolverine was terrible. It had some good moments with some ambitious ideas, but it never came together in a coherent way. The film couldn't kept changing gears every 30 minutes it seemed. It seems as if they compressed a storyline that could have filled two to three movies into one. It was as if the director and/or writers said "Lets throw as much crap on the wall as possible and see what sticks".

X-Men: The Last Stand at least had a coherent storyline with characters acting in believable ways. Sure, parts could have been fleshed out some more and their could have been deeper characterization in some parts, but it nicely wrapped up the storyline started in the first two films.

[JacksonArcher]

My "favorite" line from the film:

Originally posted by Professor Charles Xavier
The sheer mass of water that collapsed on top of Jean should have obliterated her completely. The only explanation of Jean's survival is that her powers wrapped her in a cocoon of telekinetic energy.

Clearly, the only explanation.

[Admiral_Young]

I remember rolling my eyes at that line. Sigh. I hated what they did with Jean and Scott in the third movie but that was the least of it's flaws. I can't even admit to it being a fun, brainless popcorn movie because I honestly wasn't entertained by it at all. The only other time that I've seen the film as JacksonArcher knows...is to listen to the pompous and ego tripping audio commentary from Ratner, and Penn.

[JacksonArcher]

The film has some decent moments. It's just such a huge letdown from X2. Fortunately X-Men: First Class has given us a good X-Men movie again. I can sleep soundly now.

[RoJoHen]

Set Harth wrote:

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I knew it. I rest my case. Doesn't it suck when character shields go away and anything can happen?

Wow, I can tell you're gonna be fun to argue with.

Note that I said "killing off characters for no good reason." Cyclops died because James Marsden was busy doing other thing. That, in my mind, is not a good reason.

So a mutant cure plot is complete nonsense when it happens in The Last Stand, but not when it happens in First Class?

I never said the cure plot was nonsense. The idea of it is just fine. I simply thought the story was very poorly told.

And for the record, I thought First Classwas shit, too. The Last Stand made me angry because it had such awesome potential with the way X2 left off. First Class was a boring story about characters I don't give a shit about.

Was The Last Stand a decent action flick? Maybe. But I didn't see it for action. I saw it because I wanted a good X-Men story. It didn't deliver, and it ruined a lot of character development from the first two movies.

[StarTrek1701]

JacksonArcher wrote:

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The film has some decent moments. It's just such a huge letdown from X2. Fortunately X-Men: First Class has given us a good X-Men movie again. I can sleep soundly now.

Being that everything is so quiet on the actors, studio, producer and director's points, I am guessing a sequel to this dreadful movie ain't happening any time soon. Superman Returns all over again.

[Admiral_Young]

^ I guess you've missed the interviews where Singer and Vaughn both talked about their ideas for a sequel then. That said, as I stated in the other thread I don't think we will hear anything soon. Probably not until later in the year after the DVD release happens.

[StarTrek1701]

Admiral_Young wrote:

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^ I guess you've missed the interviews where Singer and Vaughn both talked about their ideas for a sequel then.

Singer talked about his ideas for a S:R sequel too, and Supes is getting rebooted. Again.

[Admiral_Young]

That wasn't the point. You stated that you said things were "quiet" from the actors and directors. I also believe that McAvoy stated he would return for another one. Just because there isn't an immediate announcement from Fox doesn't mean there isn't one forthcoming.

[KB24]

Okay, another reason the box office isn't doing that well perhaps, The soundtrack isn't coming out for another month, really?

I thought it was this Tuesday, but Amazon says July 12. Why wait a month to have something in stores with displays for your one damn tie-in? Hubbard, this music has been stuck in my head for days!

[Admiral_Young]

^ The score has been out since the start of the month.

[KB24]

You mean the downloads from Amazon? I thought it was out before, then I thought it was June 12. Why does Amazon say pre order only? I was going to hit some stores and pick it up tomorrow. I'll have to look.

But really, oh for a t-shirt! I'm going to have to behead a Magneto minimate for my Christmas ornament!


ETA: For those debating The Last Stand. There are a few comments about it here in the Top 10 Cinematic X-Men moments.

http://thefilmexperience.net/blog/20...e-moments.html