X-MEN: FIRST CLASS - Grading+Discussion **SPOILERS!**

[David cgc]

Caretaker wrote:

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For the iPad, there's an app from Fox (no idea if the people behind the movie are involved in it) that is a 1960's magazine showing events after the end of the movie. It shows a picture of President Kennedy meeting a standing Charles Xavier at the White House. I'd say astral projection is probably a pretty good guess.

How do you take a photograph of an astral projection?

[Ensign_Redshirt]

This might be a dumb (and already debated) question... but am I correct to assume that First Class basically ignores The Last Stand and Origins: Wolverine, while acknowledging the first two X-Men films as Canon?

The Last Stand and Origins: Wolverine showed a de-aged Patrick Stewart still walking, so this rules them both out. However, I don't see any discontinuites between X-Men, X2, and First Class. In fact, both X-Men and First Class start with exactly the same opening sequence. The cameos by Hugh Jackman and Rebecca Romjin could further confirm the canonicity of the first two films.

So there's basically the Singerverse, consisting of X-Men, X2, and First Class and the (for the lack of a better term) Arad/Winterverse consisting of X-Men, X2, The Last Stand, and Origins: Wolverine. The former films were all produced by Bryan Singer, the latter sequence shares Avi Arad and Ralph Winter as producers... among others.

[CaptainCanada]

No, there are seeming discontinuities with the first two films (Beast, for instance, albeit that's a minor thing; Magneto's statement concerning Cerebro)

[Set Harth]

KB24 wrote:

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^ Who *didn't* have an ignorant person on the phone as part of their theater going experience?

Seriously I don't know what is so difficult for these people to understand!

It's not a lack of understanding, it's a lack of consequences and respect for others. You get that a lot with the offspring of cocaine addicts.

Ensign_Redshirt wrote:

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This might be a dumb (and already debated) question... but am I correct to assume that First Class basically ignores The Last Stand and Origins: Wolverine, while acknowledging the first two X-Men films as Canon?

That certainly seems to be what a lot of people wanted, but the director has said that it's a reboot and isn't constrained by any of the films.

[Samurai8472]

How did Shaw know about the CIA headquarters location and the mutant recruits?

[Broccoli]

Samurai8472 wrote:

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How did Shaw know about the CIA headquarters location and the mutant recruits?

He read the script?

[Admiral_Young]

"X-Men: First Class" dropped to second place taking in a respectable $25 million this weekend. "Super 8" claimed top spot with $38 million. Still wouldn't call First Class a flop yet.

[Broccoli]

Ensign_Redshirt wrote:

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This might be a dumb (and already debated) question... but am I correct to assume that First Class basically ignores The Last Stand and Origins: Wolverine, while acknowledging the first two X-Men films as Canon?

No. First Class doesn't ignore them than anymore than it ignores the first two. Prof. X walking is really the only major discontinuity, and even that is extraordinarily minor.

[T'Baio]

Well, there was the scene interspersed with the montage where Emma implicitly states in dialogue that she can feel Professor X reaching out with his mind, that somehow he's amplified his telepathy and that they must be recruiting. Presumably she could tell where his "reaching out" was coming from.

[CaptainCanada]

Broccoli wrote:

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He read the script?

He's shown to have numerous sources in the US government; shouldn't be that difficult.

As to the box office, I wouldn't say it's a flop, but they're disappointing numbers, which is dispiriting given that this is arguably the best film in the series.

[Ensign_Redshirt]

Broccoli wrote:

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Prof. X walking is really the only major discontinuity, and even that is extraordinarily minor.

So, it's a minor major discontinuity?

[archeryguy1701]

T'Baio wrote:

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Well, there was the scene interspersed with the montage where Emma implicitly states in dialogue that she can feel Professor X reaching out with his mind, that somehow he's amplified his telepathy and that they must be recruiting. Presumably she could tell where his "reaching out" was coming from.

I don't think so... if you recall right before she tells Shaw about what's going on, she's on the bridge with Azazel looking for any other boats or subs. The reason she knows that he's amplifying his powers is because they couldn't find any vessels nearby that he could be on.

[T'Baio]

That's right, so that doesn't explain why they know where the CIA base of operations is. But it does explain that they knew he was trying to recruit.

However, his many contacts in the government, as previously stated, is enough of an explanation, I would think.

[Trekker4747]

Admiral_Young wrote:

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"X-Men: First Class" dropped to second place taking in a respectable $25 million this weekend. "Super 8" claimed top spot with $38 million. Still wouldn't call First Class a flop yet.

That's actually a respectable drop of what, around 50% or so which shows the movie is holding its own fairly good if it was seeing a drop into 60% or more that'd be bad news.

Word-wide total puts this movie now a $173 million which means that in two weeks, world wide, the movie has paid for its production budget.

[Mach5]

Trekker4747 wrote:

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Word-wide total puts this movie now a $173 million which means that in two weeks, world wide, the movie has paid for its production budget.

Not even remotely true.