X-MEN: FIRST CLASS - Grading+Discussion **SPOILERS!** - Page 12

Snaploud · June 6 2011, 03:47 AM

This the only X-Men movie that I've really enjoyed. It's also the only Marvel movie that I would recommend to others. Though, some of the other Marvel movies have been moderately entertaining.

RoJoHen · June 6 2011, 03:53 AM

As some people have already mentioned, I just didn't care about most of the characters in this film. I know Xavier and Magneto were supposed to be the main focus, but I would have liked SOME investment in the others. Emma Frost was fucking boring, and who the fuck was Tornado Guy?

As for the story...I dunno...I wasn't all that into it.

I think I give this movie a C. It wasn't bad, but it wasn't particularly memorable. The trailer was better.

mswood · June 6 2011, 03:56 AM

Really liked it, easily the best X-Men film besides X-Men United, with 1 being a little bit above average, the 2nd being an A film, and the third being a F.

This is an A- (barely almost a B+). Some minor quibble with tone, and with some questionable acting by the cast, though not the two leads who were excellent.

Minor complaints is the military attacking the Island, not that they did attack, but what they fired one round from each gun and then stopped, sorry I have never seen combat like that with the navy. Especially in that day and age (well and earlier) where barrage would be one after another, not just one volley.

Hated Azazel, hated Diamond form Emma, but I hate how modern Marvel created (or added those elements to the X-Men in the first place).

Loved the setting (as it is a near match for the start of the X-Men comic being early 60's). In a few ways a nice bit of connection to X-Men #1.

Didn't care for the "X-Men" choices besides Banshee.

But in most forms of the X-Men (and its various alternate timelines, reboots, and reality alteration the two first characters typically are Scoot and Jean. And personally I missed them (though Xavier seeing Ororo is an extremely subtile nod to X-Men 117), and one assumes the other two children in color (ie mutants) were Scott and Jean.

Disliked the americanization of a few characters (especially in a market place that is general gears itself to market beyond the US it seems some what shortsided).

But dialogue, theme, and tone were very well handled. They could have grounded it a bit more to add to the drama, but its not a big flaw.

A bigger flaw is that the X-Men train for what less then a week, and manage to not only master (to a degree) their abilities, but create technology to help them, really seems a little much.

But quibbles aside, its a fast improvement over Origins and X3, and if it can do enough business overseas and in the home market, hopefully they improve what they started.

I am certainly looking forward to more.

Trekker4747 · June 6 2011, 04:13 AM

mswood wrote:

Didn't care for the "X-Men" choices besides Banshee.

Are you kidding? Banshee was the worst! Oh, look, I can emit a loud, super-sonic noise that allows me to fly over any surface when I wear a sky-flight suit.... somehow.

Darwin, Havoc, the wasp-lady all of them I could go along with (though we really didn't see Darwin do anything useful with his powers in the course of the movie) but fucking Banshee?!

Set Harth · June 6 2011, 04:17 AM

Admiral_Young wrote:

As mentioned before Vaughn stated that he has an idea for a second movie to take place shortly after the Kennedy assassination involving the so-called 'magic bullet".

Please no, do not want. You don't need mutants to explain Dealey Plaza.

( Besides, we all know Kennedy was killed by Comedian shooting from the fence, but I guess that's non-Marvel continuity. )

RoJoHen · June 6 2011, 04:25 AM

Trekker4747 wrote:

mswood wrote:

Didn't care for the "X-Men" choices besides Banshee.

Are you kidding? Banshee was the worst! Oh, look, I can emit a loud, super-sonic noise that allows me to fly over any surface when I wear a sky-flight suit.... somehow.

Darwin, Havoc, the wasp-lady all of them I could go along with (though we really didn't see Darwin do anything useful with his powers in the course of the movie) but fucking Banshee?!

I thought Banshee was a great choice, and he's one of the more well-known X-Men characters as well, which made his presence a lot easier to swallow.

I admit I'm not a huge reader of the comics, but I've never even heard of Darwin or Angel.

HoneyBLilly · June 6 2011, 05:16 AM

RoJoHen wrote:

I admit I'm not a huge reader of the comics, but I've never even heard of Darwin or Angel.

Darwin's only been around for five or six years.

And Angel has only been around for ten now. I want to say she popped up shortly before the last time Jean Grey died, still saying she'll come back any day now.

So it's understandable that you don't know who they are.

RoJoHen · June 6 2011, 05:18 AM

Angel is a terrible name for that girl, too. X-Men already has a character named Angel, and he's way better.

I would call her Dragonfly.

Obiwanshinobi · June 6 2011, 05:20 AM

I agree she didn't even have angel wings. Angel was her stripper name. Dragonfly or Dragonbreath would have been fitting.

DarthPipes · June 6 2011, 05:20 AM

HoneyBLilly wrote:

RoJoHen wrote:

I admit I'm not a huge reader of the comics, but I've never even heard of Darwin or Angel.

Darwin's only been around for five or six years.

And Angel has only been around for ten now. I want to say she popped up shortly before the last time Jean Grey died, still saying she'll come back any day now.

So it's understandable that you don't know who they are.

Darwin came out of that awful All-New, All-Different X-Men retcon but he's a pretty cool character who has an awesome mutant ability. He's currently co-starring in the X-Factor comic, although he's on hiatus from the team.

HoneyBLilly · June 6 2011, 05:26 AM

DarthPipes wrote:

Darwin came out of that awful All-New, All-Different X-Men retcon but he's a pretty cool character who has an awesome mutant ability. He's currently co-starring in the X-Factor comic, although he's on hiatus from the team.

Isn't this the one where there is like no one there anymore, not even Professor X?

And I agree, Dragonfly would be a better name, or Firefly.

RoJoHen · June 6 2011, 05:27 AM

HoneyBLilly wrote:

or Firefly.

Does her butt glow?

HoneyBLilly · June 6 2011, 05:29 AM

RoJoHen wrote:

HoneyBLilly wrote:

or Firefly.

Does her butt glow?

When it's covered in tanning oil, duh.

No, but when I saw her wings I though of a firefly for some reason, I was thinking of a dragonfly but couldn't get the name out to save my life. So firefly stuck.

Obiwanshinobi · June 6 2011, 05:30 AM

She hocks fireballs like loogies. Angel is her real name too right? Angel Salvator?

HoneyBLilly · June 6 2011, 05:38 AM

ObiWanShinobi wrote:

She hocks fireballs like loogies. Angel is her real name too right? Angel Salvator?

Yeah it is.

And this is actually what she looks like so Dragonfly would have been much more acceptable

View Poll Results: How Much Did You Enjoy X-MEN: FIRST CLASS?
A+ (Great Movie!)	73	35.61%
A (Entertained a lot!)	93	45.37%
B (Was okay, not bad)	30	14.63%
C (Below expectations)	6	2.93%
D (Very bad)	2	0.98%
F (Intolerable, want money back)	1	0.49%
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June 6 2011, 03:47 AM	#166
Snaploud Admiral Location: Massachusetts, USA	Re: X-MEN: FIRST CLASS - Grading+Discussion SPOILERS! This the only X-Men movie that I've really enjoyed. It's also the only Marvel movie that I would recommend to others. Though, some of the other Marvel movies have been moderately entertaining.

June 6 2011, 03:53 AM	#167
RoJoHen Awesome Location: Wherever life takes me	Re: X-MEN: FIRST CLASS - Grading+Discussion SPOILERS! As some people have already mentioned, I just didn't care about most of the characters in this film. I know Xavier and Magneto were supposed to be the main focus, but I would have liked SOME investment in the others. Emma Frost was fucking boring, and who the fuck was Tornado Guy? As for the story...I dunno...I wasn't all that into it. I think I give this movie a C. It wasn't bad, but it wasn't particularly memorable. The trailer was better. __________________ I am the Quintessential Admiral. Get ready to grow your EQUINOX BEARD!

June 6 2011, 03:56 AM	#168
mswood Rear Admiral Location: 9th level of Hell	Re: X-MEN: FIRST CLASS - Grading+Discussion SPOILERS! Really liked it, easily the best X-Men film besides X-Men United, with 1 being a little bit above average, the 2nd being an A film, and the third being a F. This is an A- (barely almost a B+). Some minor quibble with tone, and with some questionable acting by the cast, though not the two leads who were excellent. Minor complaints is the military attacking the Island, not that they did attack, but what they fired one round from each gun and then stopped, sorry I have never seen combat like that with the navy. Especially in that day and age (well and earlier) where barrage would be one after another, not just one volley. Hated Azazel, hated Diamond form Emma, but I hate how modern Marvel created (or added those elements to the X-Men in the first place). Loved the setting (as it is a near match for the start of the X-Men comic being early 60's). In a few ways a nice bit of connection to X-Men #1. Didn't care for the "X-Men" choices besides Banshee. But in most forms of the X-Men (and its various alternate timelines, reboots, and reality alteration the two first characters typically are Scoot and Jean. And personally I missed them (though Xavier seeing Ororo is an extremely subtile nod to X-Men 117), and one assumes the other two children in color (ie mutants) were Scott and Jean. Disliked the americanization of a few characters (especially in a market place that is general gears itself to market beyond the US it seems some what shortsided). But dialogue, theme, and tone were very well handled. They could have grounded it a bit more to add to the drama, but its not a big flaw. A bigger flaw is that the X-Men train for what less then a week, and manage to not only master (to a degree) their abilities, but create technology to help them, really seems a little much. But quibbles aside, its a fast improvement over Origins and X3, and if it can do enough business overseas and in the home market, hopefully they improve what they started. I am certainly looking forward to more. __________________ My fandom will SALT and BURN your fandom!

June 6 2011, 05:18 AM	#173
RoJoHen Awesome Location: Wherever life takes me	Re: X-MEN: FIRST CLASS - Grading+Discussion SPOILERS! Angel is a terrible name for that girl, too. X-Men already has a character named Angel, and he's way better. I would call her Dragonfly. __________________ I am the Quintessential Admiral. Get ready to grow your EQUINOX BEARD!

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June 6 2011, 05:20 AM	#174
Obiwanshinobi Rear Admiral Location: ObiWanShinobi	Re: X-MEN: FIRST CLASS - Grading+Discussion SPOILERS! I agree she didn't even have angel wings. Angel was her stripper name. Dragonfly or Dragonbreath would have been fitting.

June 6 2011, 05:30 AM	#179
Obiwanshinobi Rear Admiral Location: ObiWanShinobi	Re: X-MEN: FIRST CLASS - Grading+Discussion SPOILERS! She hocks fireballs like loogies. Angel is her real name too right? Angel Salvator?