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Old June 2 2011, 06:24 AM   #1
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Blue Thunder vs. Airwolf

In 1983, Columbia Pictures released a science fiction/action thriller(well a science fact/action thriller)with a serious social commentary behind it. One involving the access to personal information from an unlikely source(precursor to the internet)and the misuse of Government hardware at the hands of corrupt government offcials.

What the 1968 police thriller 'Bullitt' did for car chases, John Badham's Blue Thunder did the same for helicopter chases and shootouts over the cesspool city known as Los Angeles.

A year later, Universal Pictures released a television series about another U.S. Government, military issued stealth helicopter known as Airwolf. While Blue Thunder dealt with local law enforcement, Airwolf dealt with 'international law enforcement'.

Like the foolish debate between Star Wars and Battlestar Galactica, the controversy between the movie Blue Thunder and the television series Airwolf has been an on-going one.

The question is, which is better? If not, who would win in an aerial duel to the death?

You have Frank Murphy(Roy Scheider)in the Blue Thunder corner and Stringfellow Hawke(Jan Michael Vincent)in the Airwolf corner. Two experienced pilots and Vietnam veterans who don't back down from illegal opposition.

Who would win and which production do you prefer?
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Old June 2 2011, 06:45 AM   #2
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Re: Blue Thunder vs. Airwolf

Blue Thunder was also a short lived television series.
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Old June 2 2011, 07:05 AM   #3
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Re: Blue Thunder vs. Airwolf

Airwolf has air-to-air missiles. and is bulletproof. all blue thunder had was a gatling gun. Airwolf FTW.
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Old June 2 2011, 07:18 AM   #4
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Re: Blue Thunder vs. Airwolf

Dude just don't go there
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Old June 2 2011, 07:42 AM   #5
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Re: Blue Thunder vs. Airwolf

captcalhoun wrote: View Post
Airwolf has air-to-air missiles. and is bulletproof. all blue thunder had was a gatling gun. Airwolf FTW.
IIRC, Airwolf had something like 14 different weapons, could fly at Mach speeds, and had stealth capability. Airwolf all the way, baby.
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Old June 2 2011, 07:57 AM   #6
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Re: Blue Thunder vs. Airwolf

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Blue Thunder was also a short lived television series.
I'm trying to forget about that abomination.
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Old June 2 2011, 08:54 AM   #7
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Re: Blue Thunder vs. Airwolf

^Maybe they'll do a remake that's better.
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Old June 2 2011, 09:44 AM   #8
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Re: Blue Thunder vs. Airwolf

If we suspend disbelief then Airwolf wins given it's supersonic speeds, Knight Rider body armour, and ability to carry and fire weapons that would never fit inside the body of the craft

Blue Thunder was way more realistic, but this lended itself more to a one off film than an ongoing TV show (especially given that Airworlf at least looked like a regular helicopter so could blend in/go undercover..I have visions of a helicopter in a hat and dark glasses now)

I really like the film, can't recall much about the TV show. Airwolf I loved at the time, but in hindsight it didn't have the charm of, say, The A-Team. I got a DVD with some episodes on a few years back and have to say you could basically condense the show to two things; the main titles and the dogfight at the end, everything else is kinda poor (with maybe some exceptions, the premise was interesting and I've always liked Borgnine.)

Airwolf has one hell of a cool soundtrack though!
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Old June 2 2011, 10:22 AM   #9
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Re: Blue Thunder vs. Airwolf

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If we suspend disbelief then Airwolf wins given it's supersonic speeds, Knight Rider body armour, and ability to carry and fire weapons that would never fit inside the body of the craft
It's also bigger on the inside...
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Old June 2 2011, 10:27 AM   #10
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Re: Blue Thunder vs. Airwolf

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Like the foolish debate between Star Wars and Battlestar Galactica, the controversy between the movie Blue Thunder and the television series Airwolf has been an on-going one.
No it hasn't. Nobody gives a shit about them.
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Old June 2 2011, 12:22 PM   #11
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Re: Blue Thunder vs. Airwolf

Regardless of tech, I could never get Roy Scheider vs. Jan Michael Vincent out of my mind. Much like the whole "Batman could beat anyone with time to prepare" defense, I must believe that Scheider would kick Vincent's ass any day of the week.

Besides, Blue Thunder was way cooler.
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Old June 2 2011, 01:10 PM   #12
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Re: Blue Thunder vs. Airwolf

Let me settle the argument;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g29eXR_nZc8

Airwolf would always win purely because of their superior theme music;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCXbvRrz7Uo
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Old June 2 2011, 01:16 PM   #13
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Airwolf. No contest!
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Old June 2 2011, 01:38 PM   #14
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Re: Blue Thunder vs. Airwolf

Well, the Bell 222 was way prettier than the hacked up bug-eyed Gazelle (?) they bashed Blue thunder out of.

I watched Airwolf all the way thru not too long ago. Yeah, it was rife with stupid 80s plots (another paramilitary desert slave compound!?) and bad acting, but the things they did with that beautiful helicopter were amazing - MAN those stunt pilots must have had a ball!

And yeah, the pretty, bullet-proof mach 3 chopper full of retractable sidewinders () will beat the ugly, non-bullet-proof slow chopper with the greenhouse on its nose, every day.
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Old June 2 2011, 01:45 PM   #15
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Well, the Bell 222 was way prettier than the hacked up bug-eyed Gazelle (?) they bashed Blue thunder out of.

I watched Airwolf all the way thru not too long ago. Yeah, it was rife with stupid 80s plots (another paramilitary desert slave compound!?) and bad acting, but the things they did with that beautiful helicopter were amazing - MAN those stunt pilots must have had a ball!

And yeah, the pretty, bullet-proof mach 3 chopper full of retractable sidewinders () will beat the ugly, non-bullet-proof slow chopper with the greenhouse on its nose, every day.
Yeah, that's the truth. Got fed up when they slashed the budget and you got the same shot of the same rocket hitting the same cliff face each week. It also went off the rails when Hawk stopped being the sensitive loner who played his cello and started being a regular guy who played the guitar and banged the bimbo of the week. The end of the cold war also didn't help.
Loved Jean Bruce Scott though
Best ep, Moffat's Ghost, love the scene where Hawk does his kamikaze dive at the end to knock out Airwolfs infected computer, best use to the awesome theme music ever
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