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View Poll Results: Would you step onboard the transporter pad?
No thanks, I'll take the bus 24 55.81%
Thought you'd never ask! 19 44.19%
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Old May 20 2011, 01:14 PM   #46
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Re: Transporters Yay/Nay

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As much as I identify with Dr. McCoy, I'd have to give it a whirl at least once.
I'm still amazed by how McCoy's reluctance and misgivings about the transporter are mockingly ridiculed in TMP even immediately after a fatal transporter accident. Who in their right mind would willingly step into the same machine that just mangled two of the crew. Or more properly how could Kirk haughtily order him to do it, especially after arriving via travel pod himself, specifically because the transporters weren't working.

What's still odd, of course, is that all three transports in the film imply the need of a working transporter pad at not only the origin point but also the destination.
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Old May 20 2011, 03:51 PM   #47
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Given the Federations high moral and ethical philosophy, I just can't see them allowing their people to step into such a machine, cargo sure, but not people.
They don't KNOW they're sending people to a horrible death, because all the people who could tell them are DEAD! You only find out the horrible TRUTH about transporters once the machine disintegrates you!
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Old May 20 2011, 08:05 PM   #48
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What's still odd, of course, is that all three transports in the film imply the need of a working transporter pad at not only the origin point but also the destination.
I think it's some kind of protocol for ship to ship transport.
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Old May 20 2011, 10:15 PM   #49
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I hope the Fed is nothing like the Soviet Union which kill a lot of people sending people into outer space in an attempt to beat us in the space race. Every time you have a government looking over and taking charge of some program, people ended up getting killed, like what happened in the U.S.S.R.. And they claim they beat us while all this time they cheated! On second thought! I'll take a shuttle! No one is going to make me! Do I sound like Dr. Macoy?
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Old May 21 2011, 12:58 AM   #50
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I hope the socialized medicine runs by the government in the 24th century isn't anything like we have here.... Long line (two days waiting in the ER), crappy services, and outdated equipment and procedures. I don't even trust Crusher to operate on me, so why would let them teleport me? It gives me the creeps!
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Old May 21 2011, 01:11 AM   #51
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Not after seeing The Prestige. Not even with David Bowie's help.
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Old May 21 2011, 02:42 AM   #52
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If I was assured that it would actually be me stepping off the transporter and not a duplicate, I might consider it.
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Old May 21 2011, 06:10 AM   #53
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^ Do I have to keep repeating myself? Just go watch "Realm of Fear". It conclusively proves it would actually be you.
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Old May 21 2011, 06:17 AM   #54
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^ Do I have to keep repeating myself? Just go watch "Realm of Fear". It conclusively proves it would actually be you.
But Realm of Fear directly contradicts what other episodes say about transporters including Lonely Among Us and Unnatural Selection.
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Old May 21 2011, 06:18 AM   #55
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I hope the Fed is nothing like the Soviet Union which kill a lot of people sending people into outer space ...

On second thought! I'll take a shuttle! No one is going to make me! Do I sound like Dr. Macoy?
Of course, by this time next year if you should want to travel into space, it would have to be aboard a Russian spacecraft.

Surprise.

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Old May 21 2011, 06:23 AM   #56
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^ Do I have to keep repeating myself? Just go watch "Realm of Fear". It conclusively proves it would actually be you.
But Realm of Fear directly contradicts what other episodes say about transporters including Lonely Among Us and Unnatural Selection.
Only if you let it.
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Old May 21 2011, 06:27 AM   #57
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I hope the Fed is nothing like the Soviet Union which kill a lot of people sending people into outer space ...

On second thought! I'll take a shuttle! No one is going to make me! Do I sound like Dr. Macoy?
Of course, by this time next year if you should want to travel into space, it would have to be aboard a Russian spacecraft.

Surprise.

It's not the same thing, though! Russian government is still unstable and their is a lot of human rights violation...like, trafficking of sex slaves. It's practically a third world.
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Old February 3 2013, 09:00 AM   #58
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The transporter KILLS you and then creates a perfect duplicate of you somewhere else, a duplicate who has every single one of your memories except the moment of your DEATH. That's why people in the Star Trek universe think that transporters are safe. It's because people DIE every time they step onto that thing, but they can't warn anybody.

This is my greatest fear, and exactly why I'm always warning people not to teleport. Even if "you" have done it a hundred times, the current version of you should avoid doing it again.

To my knowlege, the problem was first discussed in SPOCK MUST DIE (1970) by James Blish. He defined the transporter process in such a way that there was no doubt you were being re-created at the other end from scratch, not moved intact.

In TNG they defined transporting differently: a subspace carrier wave somehow acted as not just an information superhighway (instructions for your reassembly), but also as a physical highway for sending your actual subatomic particles.

Even so, I would fear that the new newly assembled you might be a copy who only thought he was the same old you.
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Old February 3 2013, 06:19 PM   #59
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Not since I saw The Prestige
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Old February 3 2013, 10:07 PM   #60
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This is my greatest fear, and exactly why I'm always warning people not to teleport.
(coughs) I don't think the Providers like resurrecting 2-year old threads.
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