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Old December 15 2010, 09:57 PM   #286
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Re: DEXTER Season 5 Discussion & Spoilers

I'm just happy to see Julia Stiles go, when she announced she was leaving for whatever unimportant reason it was, I cheered.

On the whole the season wasn't the worst, wasn't the best. I was hoping for a more WTF ending though, but if you think about it what we got was a very Dexter-esque ending - the great piano riff and creepy Dexter looking in to the camera.

Oh and according to The Superficial, the world's only trusted news source, Dexter was cheating with Julia Stiles.

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All I have to say to that is Lemon over Deb? Jayzus.
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Old December 15 2010, 11:33 PM   #287
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The headline says it, but the article? Not so much. It just has some bad joke of him and not sleeping with enough women, but whatever. Grain of salt.
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Old December 16 2010, 10:51 PM   #288
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Well after this season's finale I'm convinced that Deb won't find out about Dexter until the final season (whenever that is). I don't think the writers want to go there yet. It would change the show too much for them. They don't seem intent on making huge changes in the show.
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Old December 17 2010, 01:05 PM   #289
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^ Unless they are planning to have Deb never find out, which I think would disappoint.
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Old December 18 2010, 06:49 PM   #290
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I don't think it's at all overly dramatic to call this a totally disappointing conclusion to the weakest season of the series. Deb not learning Dexter's hobby because of a piece of plastic between her and him? That was easily the most frustratingly contrived scene on the series ever.

Lumen kills Jordan Chase, can no longer sleep, and this means her trauma has been cured? If Lumen isn't returning to the series, I'd say her arc was a complete waste of time. Dexter's final voice over was nice (and his comment that wishes are for children was absolutely chilling) but the fact that it's hard for him to form relationships is far short of a revelation.

Or how about another scene that nobody has mentioned yet? LaGuerta is questioning Quinn and is able to notice a tiny mark of blood on his boot and immediately assumes it is Liddy's? I belt out laughing. The guy is around crime scenes all the time and the mark is hardly noticeable.

Taking the Quinn subplot further, how does Dexter's falsification of evidence exonerate him? Did that make everyone forget that Rowboat Cop signed out all his surveillance equipment in Quinn's name? Did that make everyone forget all the phone calls between them that were never explained by Quinn? Like all the ridiculous conclusions in this finale, it's nothing but a re-set to the status quo.

Anything that changed between the season premiere and the finale has been re-set to how it was in the closing of season four. For example: the kids were gone in order to enable the season arc, but that's over, so they're back.

And, because I keep bringing it up, remember when Dexter killed an innocent man in cold blood, without taking care to prevent DNA evidence from getting everywhere, in the season premiere? Apparently that crime scene went undiscovered for an entire year, because it was never brought up again. What could have been a game changer was sloppily forgotten--perhaps the theme of this season.

I recall the prominence of Quinn's investigation of Dexter in the trailer for this year. What a disappointment there. Instead of going through channels, he stalks the Butler kid. Instead of going through channels, he hires a corrupt and crazy cop in the form of Peter Weller. And he sleeps with Deb, which is apparently justification to forget EVERYTHING. Doakes was a threat. This guy is an overly-tanned joke.

Rita's death made for a fantastic ending to last season, but after 12 episodes, I have the same feelings as Temis: what was the point?
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Old December 18 2010, 06:53 PM   #291
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Isn't Dexter on its third showrunner staff? When you have three different creative teams with their own idea of what the show is supposed to be like, this kind of thing is bound to happen.
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Old December 18 2010, 08:32 PM   #292
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Yep, they just switched again. I get the strong feeling that the first guy, in charge of S1-S2, had the right vision for the show and ever since then, it's been a succession of people trying to imitate S1-S2. Sometimes it's done well, like S4, but they've lost the original focus, which is that Dexter is not supposed to grow. He can't - if he can "cure" himself, it not only renders his backstory a joke (could Harry have cured him in childhood by getting him good psychological help? He never tried as far as we know!) but it violates the integrity of the character (it's too easy of a solution) and robs him of what makes him interesting in the first place.

No, the point of this particular story is for all the other characters to change. Dexter's dilemma is to stay exactly as he is, and get others to accept him for what he is - the fantasy parade at the very end of S1 told us what the show's premise is. Realistically, people like Angel and LaGuerta aren't going to change their minds about serial killers, but Deb and the kids might.
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Old December 18 2010, 08:36 PM   #293
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http://www.avclub.com/articles/dexte...wrunner,49194/

I tried posting this earlier--I guess it didn't go through.

Long story short, Dexter will be on its fourth showrunner in six seasons. So far, it's been...

Season 1
Seasons 2-4
Season 5
Season 6

So, season 1 and 2 had different showrunners.
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Old December 18 2010, 10:23 PM   #294
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Was Daniel Cerrone the guy who left after the first season? S2 was still witty and gripping so somehow they kept it going that long.
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Old December 18 2010, 11:37 PM   #295
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According to IMDB, Cerone wrote for DEXTER during its first and second seasons, and was a credited executive producer from the second episode of the first season to the season three finale.

James Manos, Jr. was in charge of DEXTER during its first season, as the developer and (as far as I can find online) showrunner.

Clyde Phillips took over as showrunner in season two and left after season four (he joined the series as a writer in the second episode of the first season).

Chip Johannessen (late of 24) was the showrunner during the latest season. He's being replaced by Scott Buck, who has written and produced for DEXTER since its second season.
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Old December 19 2010, 06:49 AM   #296
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IMHO, the weakest season of this series was season three. Jimmy Smitts character was uninteresting. Dexter was shopping for a home and getting ready for his wedding. It was a multi episode arc snoozefest that I will have a hard time watching again. I'd rather go from crazy Lila straight to naked ass Lithgow.
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Old May 18 2011, 07:25 PM   #297
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I mostly like to watch USA TV shows and Dexter is one of the best TV show ever. I have watched the full TV show. Now, I say that, It is the King of the all TV shows.....
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Old May 19 2011, 04:37 AM   #298
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Wow.

There's quite a gulf between USA shows and Dexter. It's like combining oatmeal with, I dunno, rocket fuel?
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Old May 19 2011, 05:52 AM   #299
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Wow.

There's quite a gulf between USA shows and Dexter. It's like combining oatmeal with, I dunno, rocket fuel?

Maybe he means shows from the US.
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