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Old May 14 2011, 04:10 PM   #1
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Why did Janeway have such bad taste in men...

(other than plot contrivance). Or is it just the 'bad boy' syndrome? Looking back, it's not a very edifying list:

the 'Mr Rochester' holonovel guy
Labin
Kashyk
Jaffen
Sullivan

All creeps in my book. Apologies if missed anyone. With that list, not surprised fanfics/shippers looked elsewhere. Couldn't they have given her one decent relationship, even if it was an 'indian summer'? Kirk, Picard and Archer all got one (Paradise Syndrome/Inner Light/Twilight).
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Old May 14 2011, 05:59 PM   #2
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Re: Why did Janeway have such bad taste in men...

Jaffen was awesome. And adorable.

And the answer would be that Kate didn't think it would be appropriate.
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Old May 14 2011, 07:25 PM   #3
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Re: Why did Janeway have such bad taste in men...

^ For her to date a subordinate, yes.

She could have willingly had a "random dalliance" with an alien commander or politician or random dude that she ended up really liking. There were ways to keep a lover around without him being a subordinate to her on her own ship. Another ship traveling alongside, perhaps?

And seconded on Jaffen. I like that guy. He was kinda like Mark. Note also that Janeway was still pining for Mark quite a bit early on. Oh! And you forgot Gath on that list - the gross dude from "Prime Factors." *shiver* Now that was a creeper.

And Kashyk was a sexy creeper.

EDIT: I should mention that there's something to be said for a woman who doesn't necessarily "need" someone else to be happy, though. Maybe the independence was important. And there is something rather poignant about the loneliness of the character.

That said - it would have been nice to see her get with someone willingly. No mind control, no playing dangerous games.
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Old May 14 2011, 07:59 PM   #4
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Re: Why did Janeway have such bad taste in men...

HoneyBLilly wrote: View Post
Jaffen was awesome. And adorable.

And the answer would be that Kate didn't think it would be appropriate.
I couldn't possibly comment But even if Jaffen himself wasn't dodgy, he was a member of dodgy race...

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That said - it would have been nice to see her get with someone willingly. No mind control, no playing dangerous games.
That's what I was trying to get to. No manipulation...hidden agendas...mind control. Even if it was just a 'dream' moment. Guess 11:59 was closest but that wasn't Janeway
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Old May 15 2011, 02:35 AM   #5
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Re: Why did Janeway have such bad taste in men...

I liked Sullivan.



And as to why she had bad taste in men (which I don't think was the case but..) clearly it's because she was meant for 7.
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Old May 15 2011, 10:17 AM   #6
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Re: Why did Janeway have such bad taste in men...

Actually, I've been enjoying the fanfic where she ends up with Tom Paris.
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Old May 15 2011, 10:21 AM   #7
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Re: Why did Janeway have such bad taste in men...

Hey, if it's well written, why not. Not my cup of tea, but alas.

I liked Sullivan too teacake. So there.
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Old May 15 2011, 06:45 PM   #8
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Re: Why did Janeway have such bad taste in men...

My vote goes to Jaffen.

If I can't have J/C, then J/J would have been acceptable.

Plus, I loved the actor when he played Murphy on season 1's Remington Steele!

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Old May 16 2011, 12:45 AM   #9
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Re: Why did Janeway have such bad taste in men...

I liked Jaffen, and Sullivan...just glad she left Chuckles alone, that would have been creepy.

Also that creepy french guy from Prime Factors made my skin crawl eewwww
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Old May 16 2011, 03:04 PM   #10
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Re: Why did Janeway have such bad taste in men...

Jaffen-- is that the guy from "Workforce"? Was he alright as a lover? I can't quite remember now (and I only watched it yesterday), but he seemed OK.
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Old May 16 2011, 03:13 PM   #11
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Re: Why did Janeway have such bad taste in men...

Yeah Rom, that's Jaffen.

I thought he was the best choice for her besides Chakotay.
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Old May 16 2011, 07:03 PM   #12
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Re: Why did Janeway have such bad taste in men...

How about Q? Isn't he an all around nice guy. She almost accepted his proposal in 'Q and the Grey'. Amost, seems to be, is about the same as getting there with him. Wasn't much anyway if pro-creation was only the touching of the index finger. I liked Q. He could make his wants and needs so obvious to Katherine. She missed so much fun by leaving him. They could have toured the Meditteranian or rented a cottage on Easter Island- for months and months.
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Old May 16 2011, 08:00 PM   #13
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Re: Why did Janeway have such bad taste in men...

Is everyone here forgetting Jaffen turned Chak in - out of jealousy? Not cool. Although I guess 'Workforce' was the nearest KJ got to an 'Inner Light/Twilight' episode...

Didn't put Q on list because he's not a creep (well, maybe an omnipotent one, but you get the point...)
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Old May 16 2011, 08:30 PM   #14
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Re: Why did Janeway have such bad taste in men...

Well, at least Janeway got a better taste in men than poor Deanna Troi. Slimebags like Devinion Ral and Ambassador Alkar makes Janeway's dates look rather normal in comparision.
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Old May 16 2011, 11:47 PM   #15
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Re: Why did Janeway have such bad taste in men...

^ OMG. RAL. I absolutely cannot watch that guy without foaming at the mouth. That sack of crap made Gath look like a saint.

Point well made. LOL
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