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Old May 12 2011, 10:50 PM   #16
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Re: SGU needed Flashbacks, not Stones

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Weren't people complaining when flashbacks were used in the first episode?
You'll have to refresh my memory, but didn't that episode just use flashbacks in order to pointlessly mix up its chronology, rather than to reach back and illuminate the characters' history?
The flashbacking in the pilot was mostly to avoid being a straight chronological story, while the only TJ flashback in the episode was to set up the whole bit about her affair with Young.

Air Part III tried to illuminate Scott's history with a flashback, but it just made him banging James in the closet that much worse when you found out that he knocked up a girl and caused his adoptive father to drink himself to death.
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Old May 13 2011, 05:34 AM   #17
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Re: SGU needed Flashbacks, not Stones

Meh, I like the concept for the stones, but I didn't like the execution of the stones. They were way too cavalier about what they would let them do in other people's bodies.

Flashbacks are fine if used sparingly, but I guess we'll never know...
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Old May 13 2011, 02:20 PM   #18
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Meh, I like the concept for the stones, but I didn't like the execution of the stones. They were way too cavalier about what they would let them do in other people's bodies.

Flashbacks are fine if used sparingly, but I guess we'll never know...
Yeah, that was kind of my main beef with the stones. If such a technology really existed and the Destiny situation occurred, there is no way in hell people would be allowed out in public in the bodies of others. It's also a bit daffy that they would let these people's families in on the Stargate Program. Considering all the people who have found out or been told about it over the years, the Stargate Program must be the worst-kept secret ever.

There's also the whole having-sex-in-other-people's-bodies thing that I don't see ever flying in a real-world situation. I know I'm supposed to suspend my disbelief but that's seriously stretching it and I don't think most reasonable people would ever agree to something like that.
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Old May 13 2011, 02:26 PM   #19
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^ People do porn, become prostitutes and go on talk shows, so I can believe that some people would allow use of their bodies for sex. Although who, how many and what they'd get out of it, I don't know. I'm glad that the show went there and I found it entertaining.
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Old May 13 2011, 02:33 PM   #20
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^ People do porn, become prostitutes and go on talk shows, so I can believe that some people would allow use of their bodies for sex. Although who, how many and what they'd get out of it, I don't know. I'm glad that the show went there and I found it entertaining.
But they didn't even talk about it. If you're going to use technology with such moral implications it would be nice if there was, y'know, some onscreen discussion of it.

Instead, it just happened and it's like everyone was supposed to be okay with it. Does not compute.
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Old May 13 2011, 02:36 PM   #21
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^ That's true. A more in-depth look at the issue along with the fun factor would have been nice.
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Old May 13 2011, 02:50 PM   #22
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^ People do porn, become prostitutes and go on talk shows, so I can believe that some people would allow use of their bodies for sex. Although who, how many and what they'd get out of it, I don't know. I'm glad that the show went there and I found it entertaining.
But they didn't even talk about it. If you're going to use technology with such moral implications it would be nice if there was, y'know, some onscreen discussion of it.

Instead, it just happened and it's like everyone was supposed to be okay with it. Does not compute.
One of the kino webisodes does say that the people on Earth who volunteer for stone swaps actually sign forms authorizing their bodies to be used for sexual purposes.

The weirdness of that aside, my main beef with the stones is that everyone was so accpeting that these strangers who walked into their houses were in fact their loved ones, and some of these people agreed to have sex with a complete stranger who just claimed to be their husband/wife/significant other. In fact, aside from Eli's mother, no one showed any real skepticism about these complete strangers claiming to be loved ones.
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Old May 13 2011, 04:59 PM   #23
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^ People do porn, become prostitutes and go on talk shows, so I can believe that some people would allow use of their bodies for sex. Although who, how many and what they'd get out of it, I don't know. I'm glad that the show went there and I found it entertaining.
But they didn't even talk about it. If you're going to use technology with such moral implications it would be nice if there was, y'know, some onscreen discussion of it.

Instead, it just happened and it's like everyone was supposed to be okay with it. Does not compute.
One of the kino webisodes does say that the people on Earth who volunteer for stone swaps actually sign forms authorizing their bodies to be used for sexual purposes.

The weirdness of that aside, my main beef with the stones is that everyone was so accpeting that these strangers who walked into their houses were in fact their loved ones, and some of these people agreed to have sex with a complete stranger who just claimed to be their husband/wife/significant other. In fact, aside from Eli's mother, no one showed any real skepticism about these complete strangers claiming to be loved ones.
I knew about the kino webisode, but why wouldn't something like that have actually been in the show? I guess they wanted to have sex but not talk about the consequences.
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Old May 13 2011, 10:11 PM   #24
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You want consequences, what would have happened if someone got pregnant as a result of stone sex? Yes, I'm sure people took the proper precautions, but there is no such thing as perfect birth control. That would have been one hell of a mess. Bad enough if a stoned man (hah!) impregnated a woman on Earth, but even worse if a stoned woman got pregnant. All she wanted was to help two lovers reunite, now she's ended carrying a child for nine months. Who would get custody of such a child? That could have been an interesting issue to deal with.
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Old May 13 2011, 10:26 PM   #25
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^ I would have loved to have seen that happen.

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Old May 14 2011, 12:35 AM   #26
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I see the stones as a crutch and I think it would be more intense not to have them. At the same time, it does help them being able to keep in touch to keep some semblence of being part of the Stargate franchise.
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Old May 14 2011, 03:24 AM   #27
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Stones as they were done in Season 2 was pretty good, for the most part. As used in Season 1, I could have done without them.
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