RSS iconTwitter iconFacebook icon

The Trek BBS title image

The Trek BBS statistics

Threads: 139,126
Posts: 5,401,300
Members: 24,745
Currently online: 636
Newest member: lafzsurat

TrekToday headlines

September-October Trek Conventions And Appearances
By: T'Bonz on Aug 29

Lee Passes
By: T'Bonz on Aug 29

Trek Merchandise Sale
By: T'Bonz on Aug 28

Star Trek #39 Villain Revealed
By: T'Bonz on Aug 28

Trek Big Bang Figures
By: T'Bonz on Aug 28

Star Trek Seekers Cover Art
By: T'Bonz on Aug 27

Fan Film Axanar Kickstarter Success
By: T'Bonz on Aug 27

Two New Starship Collection Ships
By: T'Bonz on Aug 26

Trek Actor Wins Emmy
By: T'Bonz on Aug 26

Trek Retro Watches
By: T'Bonz on Aug 26


Welcome! The Trek BBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans. Please login to see our full range of forums as well as the ability to send and receive private messages, track your favourite topics and of course join in the discussions.

If you are a new visitor, join us for free. If you are an existing member please login below. Note: for members who joined under our old messageboard system, please login with your display name not your login name.


Go Back   The Trek BBS > Star Trek TV Series > The Next Generation

The Next Generation All Good Things come to an end...but not here.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old May 10 2011, 02:08 PM   #16
RAMA
Vice Admiral
 
RAMA's Avatar
 
Location: NJ, USA
Re: Rumor: TNG-HD is a-coming

exalted one wrote: View Post
I surely hope they'll hire someone else to do it. Okudas, no matter how much I respect their work, took way too much liberty with original Star Trek. Turning black-on-white clock display into yellow-on-black for no good reason (totally oblivious to the fact black on white is inherently easier to read and thus much more probable to be used in a professional environment)? Making stars tiny, almost invisible in standard definition? Recoloring all the pretty planets for the sake of "realism"? TNG doesn't need no such tampering, does it?

No, they did treat it with a lot of respect, and the creators from the original series who are still alive thought so too. Honestly your examples are so miniscule and ridiculous I laughed out loud when I saw it. If anything they should have done MORE work on the original show, not less...but I am satified the product struck a balance that satisfied most people.

RAMA
__________________
It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. Carl Sagan
RAMA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 10 2011, 03:18 PM   #17
MrPointy
Commander
 
MrPointy's Avatar
 
Location: Darwin, NT
Re: Rumor: TNG-HD is a-coming

Remastered TNG is going to sell bucketloads on any format. I didn't get TOS-R; I never completely got into 60's Trek, but I would buy TNG Bluray in a heartbeat.

I'm hoping that if it does happen, we'll eventually get HD upscales of DS9 and Voyager, not complete remastering because they probably don't need it.
__________________
“If like the leaf of the wisteria through which the sun darts his rays transparently you give your heart to me, I will no longer distrust you.” -- Lieutenant Worf
MrPointy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 10 2011, 03:47 PM   #18
BlobVanDam
Fleet Captain
 
BlobVanDam's Avatar
 
Location: Australia
Send a message via Windows Live Messenger to BlobVanDam Send a message via Yahoo to BlobVanDam
Re: Rumor: TNG-HD is a-coming

MrPointy wrote: View Post
Remastered TNG is going to sell bucketloads on any format. I didn't get TOS-R; I never completely got into 60's Trek, but I would buy TNG Bluray in a heartbeat.

I'm hoping that if it does happen, we'll eventually get HD upscales of DS9 and Voyager, not complete remastering because they probably don't need it.
I think Voyager and DS9 would require the same level of time and work as TNG, because I think the editing and FX were pretty much done the same way despite the better quality, and I know many if not all of the CG shots are pretty much lost and would need to be redone from scratch (for the later seasons that used CG).
So since they are all 7 seasons, I'd say they're just as much trouble as TNG to remaster in that way, and neither one is as popular as TNG. It just depends on how long it takes before CBS believes it's worth the investment. And let's see how long it takes them to finish up remastering 7 seasons of TNG. I can't imagine them putting that time into Voyager especially (as much as I love it).
BlobVanDam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 10 2011, 03:52 PM   #19
Doug Otte
Fleet Captain
 
Doug Otte's Avatar
 
Re: Rumor: TNG-HD is a-coming

I'm highly skeptical about this speculative rumor, for two reasons:
1) Hugely expensive and labor-intensive, as Zaku detailed above;
2) Do Netflix streamers really care about picture quality? Wouldn't they just watch the SD original versions of TNG without complaint?

Doug

PS I hope I'm wrong, and I'll gladly come back here and eat raw Targ (and I'm a vegetarian!) if the rumor is true.
Doug Otte is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 10 2011, 04:12 PM   #20
Campe98
Commodore
 
Campe98's Avatar
 
Location: Tennessee
Re: Rumor: TNG-HD is a-coming

As a Netflix streamer, I do care about picture quality. You can definitely tell the difference between SD and HD even when it streams.

Having said that, I'm excited to see what they can do with this, but I don't think I'll buy this on Blu-Ray. I don't think TNG has aged all that well, at least enough so I don't want to purchase it.
__________________
"Living is easy with eyes closed."
John Lennon, Strawberry Fields Forever
Campe98 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old May 10 2011, 04:27 PM   #21
BillJ
Admiral
 
BillJ's Avatar
 
Location: Covington, Ky.
View BillJ's Twitter Profile
Re: Rumor: TNG-HD is a-coming

Campe98 wrote: View Post
As a Netflix streamer, I do care about picture quality. You can definitely tell the difference between SD and HD even when it streams.

Having said that, I'm excited to see what they can do with this, but I don't think I'll buy this on Blu-Ray. I don't think TNG has aged all that well, at least enough so I don't want to purchase it.
I'm a Netflix user as well and I can tell a huge difference between SD and HD content.

As far as repurchasing TNG, I'll just have to wait and see. It would have to be a massive upgrade in picture quality and effects to get me to shell out more money on the series.
__________________
"I tell you what you all need, you need to take a thirteenth step, down off your high horse." - Hank Hill, King of the Hill
BillJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 10 2011, 04:29 PM   #22
Mr. Laser Beam
Fleet Admiral
 
Mr. Laser Beam's Avatar
 
Location: The visitor's bullpen
View Mr. Laser Beam's Twitter Profile
Re: Rumor: TNG-HD is a-coming

This is AWESOME news.
__________________
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shakes, the shakes become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
Mr. Laser Beam is online now   Reply With Quote
Old May 10 2011, 06:08 PM   #23
RAMA
Vice Admiral
 
RAMA's Avatar
 
Location: NJ, USA
Re: Rumor: TNG-HD is a-coming

Doug Otte wrote: View Post
I'm highly skeptical about this speculative rumor, for two reasons:
1) Hugely expensive and labor-intensive, as Zaku detailed above;
2) Do Netflix streamers really care about picture quality? Wouldn't they just watch the SD original versions of TNG without complaint?

Doug

PS I hope I'm wrong, and I'll gladly come back here and eat raw Targ (and I'm a vegetarian!) if the rumor is true.
Its not a "done deal" but it does have a sense of truth about it.

Also, STNG made a huge amount of money for Paramount/CBS...all they have to do is advertise it with lots of new "stuff" to make it appear like a new purchase.

RAMA
__________________
It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. Carl Sagan
RAMA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 10 2011, 06:33 PM   #24
Mr. Laser Beam
Fleet Admiral
 
Mr. Laser Beam's Avatar
 
Location: The visitor's bullpen
View Mr. Laser Beam's Twitter Profile
Re: Rumor: TNG-HD is a-coming

^ All they need is to say "You won't have to see that same damn shot with the Excelsior-class ship every single episode!" and they're guaranteed victory.
__________________
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shakes, the shakes become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
Mr. Laser Beam is online now   Reply With Quote
Old May 10 2011, 06:59 PM   #25
Dukhat
Commodore
 
Dukhat's Avatar
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
Re: Rumor: TNG-HD is a-coming

Mr. Laser Beam wrote: View Post
^ All they need is to say "You won't have to see that same damn shot with the Excelsior-class ship every single episode!" and they're guaranteed victory.
Here, here! Okudas. here's your chance to start designing some of those conjectural class ships like the Rigel and Apollo, and insert them whenever you used to see an Excelsior.

Actually, if this rumor is true (and unfortunately, being the pessimist I am, I doubt it), then the episode they need to re-FX first is BoBW. Imagine seeing the aftermath of the Wolf 359 battle in HD with brand-new ships! They could actually have forty ships instead of the six or seven they originally had.
__________________
“Don’t believe everything you read on the internet.”
– Benjamin Franklin
Dukhat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 10 2011, 07:20 PM   #26
BillJ
Admiral
 
BillJ's Avatar
 
Location: Covington, Ky.
View BillJ's Twitter Profile
Re: Rumor: TNG-HD is a-coming

Dukhat wrote: View Post
Mr. Laser Beam wrote: View Post
^ All they need is to say "You won't have to see that same damn shot with the Excelsior-class ship every single episode!" and they're guaranteed victory.
Here, here! Okudas. here's your chance to start designing some of those conjectural class ships like the Rigel and Apollo, and insert them whenever you used to see an Excelsior.

Actually, if this rumor is true (and unfortunately, being the pessimist I am, I doubt it), then the episode they need to re-FX first is BoBW. Imagine seeing the aftermath of the Wolf 359 battle in HD with brand-new ships! They could actually have forty ships instead of the six or seven they originally had.
Isn't that where the TOS-R team got into trouble though? Trying to remake a classic (Balance of Terror) to relaunch the series without first working out the kinks.

Just start with Encounter at Farpoint and go from there.
__________________
"I tell you what you all need, you need to take a thirteenth step, down off your high horse." - Hank Hill, King of the Hill
BillJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 10 2011, 07:39 PM   #27
Admiral Bear
Captain
 
Admiral Bear's Avatar
 
Location: Permanent away mission with the fairies
Re: Rumor: TNG-HD is a-coming

Really hope this happens, although HD in pan & scan is kind of an unwanted novelty these days, being so used to 2:35:1 and the other widscreen ratios.

AFAIK, DS9 and Voyager will never happen on Blu-ray as they were shot straight on to video. There are no HD film masters to clean up and transfer.
Admiral Bear is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 10 2011, 08:16 PM   #28
JJohnson
Captain
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Re: Rumor: TNG-HD is a-coming

RAMA wrote: View Post
exalted one wrote: View Post
I surely hope they'll hire someone else to do it. Okudas, no matter how much I respect their work, took way too much liberty with original Star Trek. Turning black-on-white clock display into yellow-on-black for no good reason (totally oblivious to the fact black on white is inherently easier to read and thus much more probable to be used in a professional environment)? Making stars tiny, almost invisible in standard definition? Recoloring all the pretty planets for the sake of "realism"? TNG doesn't need no such tampering, does it?

No, they did treat it with a lot of respect, and the creators from the original series who are still alive thought so too. Honestly your examples are so miniscule and ridiculous I laughed out loud when I saw it. If anything they should have done MORE work on the original show, not less...but I am satified the product struck a balance that satisfied most people.

RAMA
I'm a bit annoyed to this day that they didn't re-do all the planet skies to look like more than just dinky colored backdrops. Putting in clouds, the occasional bird or bird-like creature, a sun, a moon or three, that would've gone a long way to help the show look better, as well as taking all the upper displays on the bridge and actually animating them so they don't look like little more than portraits.

For TNG, I hope they redo all the FX, especially the planets, and create a few alternative ship flyby shots instead of that one off-angle, through-the-neck view that they over-used.

TNG-R can't come soon enough!
JJohnson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 10 2011, 08:20 PM   #29
JJohnson
Captain
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Re: Rumor: TNG-HD is a-coming

BillJ wrote: View Post
Campe98 wrote: View Post
As a Netflix streamer, I do care about picture quality. You can definitely tell the difference between SD and HD even when it streams.

Having said that, I'm excited to see what they can do with this, but I don't think I'll buy this on Blu-Ray. I don't think TNG has aged all that well, at least enough so I don't want to purchase it.
I'm a Netflix user as well and I can tell a huge difference between SD and HD content.

As far as repurchasing TNG, I'll just have to wait and see. It would have to be a massive upgrade in picture quality and effects to get me to shell out more money on the series.
I would agree. I didn't buy it originally due to the exorbitant prices originally asked for the DVD sets (over $100 if I remember right) when other sets were either $40-50 at the time. Even on blu-ray, I would hope it's under $60 for the set.

For TNG-R, I would expect at least the same treatment as the original series got, and hopefully they can make the LCARS look more 'alive' rather than the half-way 'inserted over video' look it has at times.
JJohnson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 10 2011, 08:21 PM   #30
JJohnson
Captain
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Re: Rumor: TNG-HD is a-coming

Mr. Laser Beam wrote: View Post
^ All they need is to say "You won't have to see that same damn shot with the Excelsior-class ship every single episode!" and they're guaranteed victory.

Or the same two shots of the Enterprise D (through the neck, and planet orbit)...
JJohnson is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
remastered, tng-r

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 08:20 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
FireFox 2+ or Internet Explorer 7+ highly recommended.