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Old May 8 2011, 10:57 PM   #16
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Read the (alleged) script - not sure if it's real, but it does feel very right. It starts a bit iffy, but gets very good. I suspect that spaghetti western fans will love it. The other 95% of the audience... I'm not so sure about. If they stick with it past the first half hour or so they should be OK.

Casting-wise, Christophe Waltz should be a good match for King Schultz - actually round about page 52 I started feeling really nostalgic for Lee Van Cleef, it's a good tribute. (Actually, the basic plot owes more to Death Rides A Horse than Django) - as for Django himself, I *can* actually hear Will Smith saying the lines.... but Will Smith of about a decade ago. i think he actually may be a little too old for the role now, as the character's supposed to be in his 20s...

Anyway, I'll bloody love it - it's better than Death Proof, and a bit more epic and less daft than Inglourious Basterds. (both of which I love anyway) - except maybe for the narrator who comes in in the second third, and who's so fucking obviously written to be Morgan Freeman... (the other criticism of I have - aside from the horrific total lack of understanding of apostrophes and how they should work - is that King's explanation of what he does should *really* come after they talk to Marshal Tatum, cos King's last line to him in the first act would be a belter if it came before the job description scene.
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Old May 8 2011, 11:48 PM   #17
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^ It's real. Inglorious Basterds was available on the net prior to production as well. In fact earlier drafts than the shooting draft. This seems to be QT's final draft. I really can't wait for this film. As for not seeing Will Smith in a QT film because of his family man image...I think that's precisely why Quentin wants him for the part.
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Old May 9 2011, 11:35 AM   #18
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^ It's real.
I don't actually doubt that for a second - I've long been familiar with QT's unique approach to the use of apostrophes before the copyeditors get hold of his scripts for official publication... But one has a certain CYA impulse in case the producers issue a blanket denial anyway.

As for not seeing Will Smith in a QT film because of his family man image...I think that's precisely why Quentin wants him for the part.
Absolutely - however, I think he's too old for the role as written... And I can see him being too strongly percieved as Will Smith rather than Django Freeman, which would hurt the character.
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Old May 9 2011, 11:43 AM   #19
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Forget Will Smith. Tarantino should cast Idris Elba.
But who the hell is Idris Elba?
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Old May 9 2011, 11:55 AM   #20
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Forget Will Smith. Tarantino should cast Idris Elba.
But who the hell is Idris Elba?
Stringer Bell in The Wire - and also a little too old for the part as written, IMO (Smith's 42, same as me, and Elba's 38 - the character's written as a 20-something, 30 tops.)
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Old May 9 2011, 12:30 PM   #21
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Idris also just portrayed Heimdall in "Thor" and is attached to Ridley Scott's "Prometheus" and is playing Moreau in "Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance ".
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Old May 9 2011, 12:37 PM   #22
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Idris also just portrayed Heimdall in "Thor" ".
And no cries of racebending!
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Old May 9 2011, 12:39 PM   #23
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^ He was awesome. No cries from me!
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Old May 9 2011, 12:58 PM   #24
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^ It's real. Inglorious Basterds was available on the net prior to production as well. In fact earlier drafts than the shooting draft. This seems to be QT's final draft. I really can't wait for this film. As for not seeing Will Smith in a QT film because of his family man image...I think that's precisely why Quentin wants him for the part.
But would Smith want to risk it? I think that's where the issue comes in.
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Old May 9 2011, 01:12 PM   #25
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^ Um cause he's been looking for that ever elusive Oscar and he's not exactly had a string of successful films lately. Why wouldn't Smith team up with QT? It's not like it's a huge risk. Look at John Travolta who had a reputation for doing family/kid friendly movies and then he did "Pulp Fiction" and his career had a second life.
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Old May 9 2011, 02:29 PM   #26
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^ Maybe you're right; I don't claim to have any great insight into Smith's thinking. But he did refuse to participate in a gay kiss for Six Degrees of Separation (though he's since said he regrets it) and he wanted The Matrix to be re-written to suit his usual screen persona. I can't think of anything on his repertoire in this vein and I think he's been very conservative in his movie choices, staying well away from indie directors and QT-type fare.

The Travolta comparison hardly bears scrutiny - Travolta was a total has-been at the time of PF and his most recent prior hits in the Look Who's Talking series were total surprises (for both him and voiceover star Bruce Willis, who also was in PF). Smith's career is nowhere near that level.
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Old May 10 2011, 12:25 AM   #27
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^ It's been getting close to that recently though one could argue. It's possible he'll pass on the roll and QT will have to find someone else. I guess you have to be of a certain mind set to work with him and Christophe Waltz certainly feels comfortable it would seem.
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Old May 10 2011, 01:29 AM   #28
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^ It's been getting close to that recently though one could argue.
Not remotely. His films have been nothing but hits (even if critical reception has sometimes been poor).
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Old May 10 2011, 02:22 AM   #29
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^ This article disagrees with you.

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Will-...ain-24603.html
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Old May 10 2011, 02:27 AM   #30
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It's simply a fact that Will Smith hasn't had a flop since Ali in 2001 -- and that was ten years ago. He's the most bankable star in the world. His films may have received mixed reviews lately, but they've made money -- lots of it.
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