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Superman (Excellent) 4 16.00%
The Blur (Good) 8 32.00%
Clark Kent (Average) 6 24.00%
Kal (Bad) 2 8.00%
Supermope (Terrible) 5 20.00%
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Old May 7 2011, 02:32 PM   #226
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Re: Smallville: T-1: 10x20 "Prophecy" - Discussion and Spoilers

Hey, Pro, I did think about another film Smallville ripped off last night. The only thing about water rights reminded me a lot of the last Bond film Quantum of Suckatude.
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Old May 7 2011, 03:27 PM   #227
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They had an episode like this in Lois & Clark the New Adventures of Superman, where Lois got his powers, when she knew who he was and all and were together.

More trivia. The very last episode of the old George Reeves tv show featured a dream sequence in which Lois gained Superman's powers!

I guess you can't do a Superman tv show without giving Lois powers at some point!

And, of course, the comics have been doing it since at least 1947! (I confess: I once tried to sell a "Super-Lois" story myself.)

The science thing doesn't bug me. After all, this is based on a comic book in which people shoot heat rays from their eyes and red kryptonite can turn Superman into a giant ant on occasion.

I don't think anyone expects SUPERMAN to be hard science!
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Old May 7 2011, 04:44 PM   #228
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-This episode felt like more filler and wheel-spinning.

- Too bad we didn't get to see Supergirl, but having Laura Vandervoort back was nice. I say "too bad we didn't get to see Supergirl" because she came off more as a random blond guest star than anyone of significance. ...like Supergirl. Okay, she had the floating and the red and blue at the end, but still, the bulk of the episode was "Laura Vandervoort", not Kara/Supergirl.

- Toyman recognized Clark right away because he already knew him, and so will everyone else who already knew Clark. Can't wait to see Lex's interaction with Supes next week.

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Seriously, we won't see him in that frakkin' suit until the final 30, no, 15 seconds of the finale. Right before the credits.
Probably. It would have been nice to see Smallville's finale resemble a Superman TV movie, but given the show's track record and a possible embargo on using too much Superman, I an accept the possibility that we won't see much of him. It would be a nice if they did surprise us though with Clark putting on the suit at the very beginning. That would be a real "whoa!" moment.

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I don't like how easily his powers can be removed and exchanged in Smallville.
I don't like it either. Not much to add to the discussion, but Proc does raise an interesting point about this later on which I'll address.

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Then Clark will hold the suit in his hands and stare at it with that patented blank look of his, as if to say, 'What am I supposed to do with this?'
At least he stared at it this episode.

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OH GOOD, glasses, yay

OH CRAP, he took em off within 5 seconds.....
With the raincoat, he looked like Supernatural's Castiel with glasses.

Didn't notice him take them off, but I did think he looked a bit dorky in them. I could see why they weren't used regularly.

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I'm hoping Clark gets beat up by some hick in a diner.
That would have been a nice touch if they could have worked it in.

Another thing... Smallville's Clark isn't as shaken as Reeve's Clark was without his powers. Probably because he's used to losing them every now and then.

Brent wrote: View Post
Don't tell me Lois is going to fly before Clark lol, wouldn't that be the icing on the cake
I thought she was going to fly as well when she got up on the desk.

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TV producers/costumers are aware there's other types of glasses than the horn-rimmed style, right?
Yeah, but most glasses these days are so thin and streamlined that they're pretty much useless as a way to significantly alter someone's appearance. If I wanted to hide behind glasses, I'd get the thickest-rimmed ones I could find.

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I've got to admit, I'm with Brent on this whole endowing human's with superpowers, even though I know it's been done in the comics. It should be based on a Kryptonian's DNA, not something you can swap around at will.

Not to mention that human beings aren't hardwired for that type of physical stress - Lo's DNA is what it is, so she shouldn't have bullet-proof skin and that much running around at speeds like that should've caused her heart to explode or something.

The only time this kind of exchange was done with consequences was with Jonathan.
Yeah. This is the point I was referring to above. I guess we can say that powers would eventually have an effect on all humans. For me, this helps make the transfer less trivial.

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I like how Jor-El is so overbearing and controlling.

Not
I did take note of how different the Jor-El AI is from Julian Sands' character.

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The Aquaman fan in me loved the Black Manta reference.
Loved that too.

Mr. Adventure wrote: View Post
I can't believe this is the best they could come up with at this point in the season/series.
I hope they're saving the good stuff for last.

Trekker4747 wrote: View Post
Any other time Clark's powers have been transfered to someone else they get his weaknesses as well.
I remember an instance or two where the human taking on Clark's powers didn't have the kryptonite weakness.

Mr. Adventure wrote: View Post
Looks like the Returns suit up there in the ice crystals.
Don't like the \S/, it's too small.

timothy wrote: View Post
do you think there will be a spin off and if so will get it?
Like a Superman spinoff?

Brent wrote: View Post
Well there we go, Kara is off to the future to join the future justice league

I will miss her
She'll be back.

Brent wrote: View Post
The ending was crap, Lois breaking up with Clark, you know they are going to get married and destined to be together, there is no tension, that was pointless.
I was well into the scene before I remembered that they were together in the future.

highlander wrote: View Post
Great episode I gave it an excellent. Putting Black Manta in even for a second was awesome.
Did we actually see him? Or was he only mentioned?

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She had to endure the cries for help that he does on a daily basis. So now she understands that while he's with her, someone is always in trouble and needs his help. So she's setting him free. This is big. And in a way it sets up how Superman needs his Clark Kent identity because he can't be Superman 24/7.
I did like that this issue was addressed, in that it provided some good drama. What do you do when you can save a lot of people and don't because you need some time on the couch? The simple answer? Don't tell anyone you can save a lot of people so that they won't hound you to "get out there". And what do you do if you're in Lois' situation? Don't know. It is a problem now though, and I can't wait to see how it's resolved. I suspect it'll be done through some sort of vague rationalizing by Lois as she makes up with Clark.

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As it stands, I sort of like what they are trying to do with Darkseid, but I think its' beyond their capacity to portray well.
I spent most of the season wanting to see Darkseid, but I was just thinking that a big hulking villain might have been a bit "out there" for a teen drama.
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Old May 7 2011, 08:20 PM   #229
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Re: Smallville: T-1: 10x20 "Prophecy" - Discussion and Spoilers

So, for the finale it looks like we will have Lionel, Lex, Darkseid, and maybe the legion of doom. Well do we have enough villains to muddy the waters?
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Old May 7 2011, 09:51 PM   #230
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Re: Smallville: T-1: 10x20 "Prophecy" - Discussion and Spoilers

^ That's only if Brian and Kelly remembered the U-Lionel thing when they sat down to write the finale lololol. As for Lex, I don't think he's going to be part of the Darkseid thing. I have a feeling he shows up after the wedding.
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Old May 8 2011, 01:15 AM   #231
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^do you think they will have lex wearing green and purple like his armor?
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Old May 8 2011, 01:26 AM   #232
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^ No they've release screen caps. He's wearing his white suit and black glove.
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Old May 8 2011, 09:10 PM   #233
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Re: AgentRichard007,

I don't think fans were too put off by Doomsday on Smallville, granted he came mostly in the package of Sam Witwer. The way I was envisioning Darkseid was something along the lines of the Darkside Club storyline in DC comics a couple years back. I think they called him "Boss Darkside". So he would look human for the most part, or be inhabitating a human vessel.

Besides Tony Todd or Michael Clarke Duncan, Christopher Judge might've been another good choice.
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Old May 8 2011, 09:28 PM   #234
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Doomsday worked because of the performance of Sam Witwer. He puts his best into whatever role he's doing. The disappointment was in the sixty-second "epic" battle between Clark and DD.
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Old May 8 2011, 11:55 PM   #235
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@Dar Kush I was originally stating that the writers were attempting to do their own adaption of Final Crisis. That doesn't look like the case at all now lol. It would have been cool if they did do something like that.
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Old May 9 2011, 01:13 AM   #236
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I can't compute how wrong this episode was.

Everyone was a chump.

Except Granny Goodness.

She was in charge of her own story, while every one else was just a rube.
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Old May 9 2011, 02:47 AM   #237
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Re: AgentRichard007,

I don't think fans were too put off by Doomsday on Smallville, granted he came mostly in the package of Sam Witwer. The way I was envisioning Darkseid was something along the lines of the Darkside Club storyline in DC comics a couple years back. I think they called him "Boss Darkside". So he would look human for the most part, or be inhabitating a human vessel.

Besides Tony Todd or Michael Clarke Duncan, Christopher Judge might've been another good choice.
Personality I wish we didn't know he was Doomsday until the big reveal. Imagine how cool that would have been! It's really basic 101 of storytelling "Don't show your hand too early" and they ignored it. Oh well
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Old May 9 2011, 03:03 AM   #238
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So, for the finale it looks like we will have Lionel, Lex, Darkseid, and maybe the legion of doom. Well do we have enough villains to muddy the waters?

I suspect the Legion of Doom thing was just an Easter Egg, giving us just a taste of the kind of supervillains Clark will have to fight when he becomes Superman. I doubt they'll figure into the finale.
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^ That's exactly what they were. The finale cast has been set for months except for who is voicing Darkseid if anyone. There were rumors that TNA wrestler Matt Morgan was hired to play Darkseid but that was never confirmed. There were also rumors that Michael Ironside recorded some lines but those weren't confirmed. For the most part the finale is an unknown.
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Old May 9 2011, 05:41 AM   #240
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So he would have played General Sam Lane and voiced Darkseid? I wonder if they would have altered it enough to avoid any confusion.
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