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View Poll Results: Rate DTI: Watching The Clock
Outstanding 98 59.76%
Above Average 44 26.83%
Average 13 7.93%
Below Average 3 1.83%
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Old April 20 2011, 03:42 AM   #16
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Sweet! The 26th can't come soon enough. I just realized Doctor Who also premiers that night, so we'll be getting lots of time travel goodness that day.
Does it? From every single source I've read, it's premièring on BBC One here, BBC America in America and Space in Canada this Saturday evening, which is the 23rd April. Of course, if you want to wait till the Tuesday, you'll be a tad late for the party and kicking yourself.
You're right, my bad. But it's still a good 2 weeks though.
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Old April 20 2011, 05:13 AM   #17
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Yes. It's good. It's very good. It's CLB at his best.
Agreed. He built an engaging story out of a very complex setting. Nice characters (the Lucsly and Dulmur pairing was fun), nice exploration of other civilizations, nice development of time travel, nice everything!
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Old April 20 2011, 09:38 AM   #18
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Sweet! The 26th can't come soon enough. I just realized Doctor Who also premiers that night, so we'll be getting lots of time travel goodness that day.
Does it? From every single source I've read, it's premièring on BBC One here, BBC America in America and Space in Canada this Saturday evening, which is the 23rd April. Of course, if you want to wait till the Tuesday, you'll be a tad late for the party and kicking yourself.
You're right, my bad. But it's still a good 2 weeks though.
What's two weeks away? Doctor Who premiers on Saturday in the locations I said, plus I think Ireland and a few other places. Watching the Clock is out on the Kindle next Tuesday, less than one week away.

If you're saying they are on seperate weeks though, as they both fall within the same week, you'd be incorrect again.

Next week will be a good week though, not for the reasons you stated though.

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I don't want to post spoilers yet lest the thread jump on me but there are some great comic moments in there.
It's a review thread, spoilers are expected in here. If you really don't want to spoil people, just put them under the tags
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Old April 20 2011, 04:41 PM   #19
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Yeah, I was thinking Saturday is the end of this week, so Tuesday would be next.
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Old April 20 2011, 05:29 PM   #20
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Yeah, I was thinking Saturday is the end of this week, so Tuesday would be next.
Yet they still fall with in the same seven days and thus fall in the same week.
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Old April 20 2011, 05:32 PM   #21
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Ah, I guess you could look at it that way too. I'm just a big fan of time travel stories, so no matter how you look at it, I'm really excited.
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Old April 20 2011, 06:26 PM   #22
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I don't want to post spoilers yet lest the thread jump on me but there are some great comic moments in there.
Feel free to use spoiler boxes.

In terms of style it seems very much an evolution of your style in The Buried Age, better this time with experience and a freer hand to not have to neatly bundle everything up at the end. Several character choices seem similar to The Buried Age, you seem to have a preference with the styles of aliens you create. Similar choices manifest themselves.
I think I know what character you're referring to there, and I'm actually not too happy with the similarity. Once I realized I was in danger of repeating myself, I tried to make the character as distinct as I could, within the limits of the story I was committed to telling.
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Old April 20 2011, 08:11 PM   #23
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Ok, I just didn't want to be pilloried by the thread.

Yes,
did seem a bit of a retake on Ariel from the Buried Age in both character and plot. I'm not unhappy about it. Different enough, but the two characters did seem to be very much cut from the same pattern.

Second,
. You're going to [in]famous for that one.

Third I was glad to see that the Carnelians made a return. I like them. I want to see more of them. Glad they were worked in.

Fourth, what is it with you and cybernetic cellular implants and cybernetic organisms in general? First the Choblik, then the Manraloth, now the
. And then
It seems to be a favourite character type of yours. I like it too, I just wonder why you choose to use that type of character.

Fifth,


Finally,
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Old April 20 2011, 08:38 PM   #24
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Yes,
did seem a bit of a retake on Ariel from the Buried Age in both character and plot. I'm not unhappy about it. Different enough, but the two characters did seem to be very much cut from the same pattern.
Well, the major difference is that



Second,
. You're going to [in]famous for that one.
Well,



Fourth, what is it with you and cybernetic cellular implants and cybernetic organisms in general? First the Choblik, then the Manraloth, now the
. And then
It seems to be a favourite character type of yours. I like it too, I just wonder why you choose to use that type of character.
Well, those have different origins. The Choblik were a race I created for my original SF back in the '80s; at first I just wanted them to be terrific engineers, and eventually it occurred to me that it would fit their mindset if they modified their own bodies with technology. I later refined that into the version of the Choblik seen in my Trek fiction. As for the Manraloth and the
I just figure the integration of technology with biology is the future. We're already at the point where the line between nanotechnology and biotechnology is blurring -- researchers are making nanostructures out of DNA molecules, things like that. So I figure eventually the distinction will be blurred to the point of meaninglessness, that biology and technology will be one. (I think the Borg are a really, really crude way of portraying cybernetic organisms -- it was an obsolete portrayal when it was new.)

Besides, it's just different. We've seen so many hyper-advanced Trek races that evolve huge brains and psi powers or go incorporeal or whatever. It's a cliche, and it's evolutionarily silly. So when I deal with hyper-advanced species, I want to do something different from the convention.

As for the



Fifth,
Not sure what you mean by that.


But I'm glad you liked the character. I really enjoyed writing her.
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Old April 20 2011, 08:56 PM   #25
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Well, I see the Manraloth, the
, the Borg and the Caeliar as all takes the same meme, the integration of biology and technology and what it means for a species. David Mack went down that road with the Caeliar and their catoms. I see real parallels with Erika Hernandez and the Change and how the Choblik develop and grow. Hernandez really does go through a regression to the womb and that exactly how she describes her experience with the Gestalt.

And yes, I was reading the shower scene that way.

I agree the Borg were old even when they were new.
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Looking forward to this book all ready pre paid for my copy.
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Old April 20 2011, 10:06 PM   #27
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And yes, I was reading the shower scene that way.
Which is actually not how I intended it, but it's not an interpretation I have a problem with...
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Old April 21 2011, 04:29 PM   #28
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Mine shipped today. Very excited.
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Old April 22 2011, 09:44 PM   #30
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Maybe you expect George Carlin, as well??
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