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Old March 15 2011, 06:56 AM   #31
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Re: Organic or 'conventional'?

Menses is triggered by weight as I understand it.
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Old March 15 2011, 04:11 PM   #32
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Wow.. The OP must be an American, I can't believe how misinformed they are. Stunning.

Organic means nothing, there is no official meaning to it and you can still use 126 chemicals on food. Those chemicals are weaker and need to be used more.

Best thing to do is buy from a local farm, if they use chemicals or not.
While I am a bit confused by the term "organic" -if it means the same as "økologisk" (which is an officially sanctioned word that is controlled by the state) does in my language, it actually means a lot. If, however, it is the wrong term for 'poison-free farming' then why don't you inform me about the right term to use?
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Old March 15 2011, 04:23 PM   #33
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Wow.. The OP must be an American, I can't believe how misinformed they are. Stunning.

Organic means nothing, there is no official meaning to it and you can still use 126 chemicals on food. Those chemicals are weaker and need to be used more.

Best thing to do is buy from a local farm, if they use chemicals or not.
"Organic" in the US is a regulated term, and must meet USDA standards outlined in the link below before a grower/producer can label their products 'organic'.

"Natural" OTOH is an unregulated marketing claim, and is therefore meaningless.

http://www.nal.usda.gov/afsic/pubs/ofp/ofp.shtml

Not a good idea to be slandering Americans and slinging the word 'misinformed' about when a 5 second google search* debunks your claims in the very next paragraph. I'm kind of embarrrassed for you right now.

*Brought to you by an American.
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Old March 15 2011, 04:35 PM   #34
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Re: Organic or 'conventional'?

I prefer to buy ecological stuff (organic), and fair trade but I certainly dont manage to do so all the time. What I do look out for though is too many unnatural additives.
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Old March 15 2011, 04:41 PM   #35
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Menses is triggered by weight as I understand it.
Not really. But it *is* genetic. You're more than likely to "get it" when your mother did and also have menopause around the same age.
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Old March 15 2011, 06:35 PM   #36
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I have gone organic whenever possible to avoid the low-level antibiotic exposure as well as the growth hormones and pesticides. I want to live more ethically and to take personal responsibility and action against the awful treatment of plants, animals, and our planet in general.

Air miles are the last thing I think about. I think this planet has far worse problems than Planes right now. Organic costs more, but I would rather forego other things. Instead of relying on cars, buses, and trains for example, I walk or cycle, and I do think that's a bigger individual contribution than avoiding organic food from other countries, which I do think encourages good practice around the world. One step at a time for me.
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Old March 15 2011, 06:39 PM   #37
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Re: Organic or 'conventional'?

I do try to buy organic whenever I can, and actually go out of my way to choose the organic option when looking at a supermarket shelf.
Unfortunately I have found a few articles in the news about organic farms producing "less than organic" produce and I do wonder just how tight the inspections are and how easy it could be to bribe your way to an Organic label permit.
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Old March 15 2011, 09:13 PM   #38
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I, for one, am shocked that quite a few people on the Trek BBS aren't concerned by the fact that more girls are growing breasts as early as age 7 than ever before.

You all can keep eating and drinking the chemicals they pump into animals, but that stuff scares the %*#@ out of me. I'd feel terrible if my daughter started going through puberty that early because it's pretty clear that it's the food we're eating that causes such problems.
“Pretty clear”?

A growing number of researchers also are concerned about hormone-disrupting chemicals in the environment. Animal studies suggest that many environmental toxins can affect the age of puberty, although scientists aren't yet sure exactly how they affect people. Suspect chemicals include pesticides used in farms and lawns, flame retardants found in furniture and electronics, and bisphenol A, or BPA, an estrogen-like ingredient found in plastic bottles, the linings of metal food and beverage cans, Biro says. He notes that researchers are collecting blood and urine samples from girls and will be able to analyze their exposure to toxins.
In other words, at this point, it’s all speculation.

And, BTW, I wish people would stop misusing the word “toxin.” Strictly speaking, a toxin is a poison produced by living things, like rattlesnake venom or botulin.

(And for you men that can't be bothered to worry about what happens to women, there's a whole part in there about tiny penises too.)
Fortunately, that’s never been my problem.

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Hormones have not been used in chicken production in Australia for over 40 years.
Good — at least we don’t have to worry about Australian chickens growing boobs.
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Old March 15 2011, 09:53 PM   #39
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Hormones have not been used in chicken production in Australia for over 40 years.
Good — at least we don’t have to worry about Australian chickens growing boobs.
I refuse to eat a chicken without an ample breast.
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Old March 16 2011, 04:50 AM   #40
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I eat what I want for as cheap as I can get it. Ergo, I do not buy organic food.
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Old March 16 2011, 05:51 AM   #41
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I can't even afford to walk down the organic food aisle.
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Old March 16 2011, 06:24 AM   #42
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I eat what I want for as cheap as I can get it. Ergo, I do not buy organic food.
As cheap as you can get is growing your own.
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Old March 16 2011, 09:53 AM   #43
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you guys actualy BUY meat? it's called hunting, people
True, but that just makes it even more expensive!

Besides, where do you hunt chicken?
*shrugs* license is pretty cheap and I get enough meat to fill a pair of freezers

as for chicken, meh, got tons of Quail in Florida, find em in my back yard sometimes
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Old March 16 2011, 09:36 PM   #44
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I eat what I want for as cheap as I can get it. Ergo, I do not buy organic food.
As cheap as you can get is growing your own.
Not really an option for me.
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Old March 16 2011, 09:41 PM   #45
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Re: Organic or 'conventional'?

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I eat what I want for as cheap as I can get it. Ergo, I do not buy organic food.
As cheap as you can get is growing your own.
Not really an option for me.
I bought seeds for one of my window-boxes today: radishes

(while the seeds aren't organic -my soil is!)
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