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Old March 2 2011, 11:32 PM   #811
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The League of Shadows returning for TDKR doesn't surprise me at all, if this is indeed meant to be Nolan's final Batman film. It makes sense that he'd want to bring things full circle and end the Batman story he wanted to tell.
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Old March 3 2011, 01:02 AM   #812
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I know it sounds like it wouldn't fit with the naturalism of Nolan's films, but when you've built up "realism capital" the way these movies have, you could spend it on one big bit of fantasy.
Ohh, Nolan blew every last bit of realism capital with that microwave generator that was somehow powerful enough to instantly vaporize all the water in the city's sewers and yet had no effect on the water in human bodies, induced no electric currents or discharges in the city's metal, etc. Not to mention, why bother engineering the fear toxin into a waterborne form and then vaporize all the water? Why not just make it a gas in the first place?
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Old March 3 2011, 01:31 AM   #813
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I know it sounds like it wouldn't fit with the naturalism of Nolan's films, but when you've built up "realism capital" the way these movies have, you could spend it on one big bit of fantasy.
Ohh, Nolan blew every last bit of realism capital with that microwave generator that was somehow powerful enough to instantly vaporize all the water in the city's sewers and yet had no effect on the water in human bodies, induced no electric currents or discharges in the city's metal, etc. Not to mention, why bother engineering the fear toxin into a waterborne form and then vaporize all the water? Why not just make it a gas in the first place?
Not to mention Joker's magical ability to go everywhere undetected and plant massive amounts of explosives that no one ever finds until he's ready to detonate them.
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Old March 3 2011, 03:41 AM   #814
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But... but... he's the Joker!
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Old March 3 2011, 04:31 AM   #815
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If we do see a return of The League of Shadows, I sure hope we see a return of Ra's al Ghul.
Not gonna happen (Ra's returning). Neeson's already confirmed this.
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Old March 3 2011, 05:14 AM   #816
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Ohh, Nolan blew every last bit of realism capital with that microwave generator that was somehow powerful enough to instantly vaporize all the water in the city's sewers and yet had no effect on the water in human bodies, induced no electric currents or discharges in the city's metal, etc. Not to mention, why bother engineering the fear toxin into a waterborne form and then vaporize all the water? Why not just make it a gas in the first place?
Considering the genre hes using, Nolan has found a very good realism level combined with the comic book aspect.

After watching this, Robin Williams would make a good Hugo Strange IMO...

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Old March 3 2011, 04:03 PM   #817
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Ohh, Nolan blew every last bit of realism capital with that microwave generator that was somehow powerful enough to instantly vaporize all the water in the city's sewers and yet had no effect on the water in human bodies, induced no electric currents or discharges in the city's metal, etc. Not to mention, why bother engineering the fear toxin into a waterborne form and then vaporize all the water? Why not just make it a gas in the first place?
Considering the genre hes using, Nolan has found a very good realism level combined with the comic book aspect.

After watching this, Robin Williams would make a good Hugo Strange IMO...

Who was the guy in the mask that wasn't Batman or Catwoman? What movie was that taken from?
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Old March 3 2011, 06:01 PM   #818
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If we do see a return of The League of Shadows, I sure hope we see a return of Ra's al Ghul.
Not gonna happen (Ra's returning). Neeson's already confirmed this.
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Old March 3 2011, 07:23 PM   #819
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^ Neeson's denial came as a response to a pointed and deliberate inquiry on the subject of whether or not he'd be playing Ra's in TDKR. I see absolutely no reason for him to blatantly lie about whether or not he was involved (if he was involved, it would make more sense for him to play coy, not blatantly deny being involved). If you're not willing to take Neeson at his word, then prepare to be disapointed when TDKR comes out and hes' not involved (especially if this rumored plot synopsis turns out to be true).

Edit: There's also the fact that Neeson will be filming Clash of the Titans 2 at the same time that TDKR will be shooting.
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Old March 3 2011, 07:25 PM   #820
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I don't really want him or the LOS to return but I'm willing to give Nolan the benefit of the doubt as regards the villains and plots for TDKR.
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Old March 3 2011, 08:49 PM   #821
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If Talia, Selena Kyle/Catwoman, Bane, and some villain played by Joseph Gordon-Levitt are all in the movie, they have too many characters already and the presence of Neeson as Ra's Al Ghul would just be unnecessary clutter. I know Nolan juggled multiple villains fairly well before with Ra's Al Ghul, Falcone, and Scarecrow in the first one and The Joker, Two-Face, and Maroni in the second one, but five would be overkill.
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Old March 3 2011, 09:01 PM   #822
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Nolan has shown in the past, most recently with "Inception" that he can work with multiple characters extremely well. The reason why I think fans complain about the use of multiple villains in past superhero villains is because the director and writers of those films weren't able to make them work. Nolan has shown that he can.
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Old March 3 2011, 09:19 PM   #823
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In my opinion after several viewings is that multiple villains didn't work too well with The Dark Knight. Two-Face felt somewhat mishandled at the end. Also overall I have to say that the mood of the movie was way too brooding, bordering overdramatic, and also some plot points (like Gordon faking his death) were unnecessary.
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Old March 3 2011, 09:30 PM   #824
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I'll agree about Harvey. Then again the original plan was for Harvey to become Two-Face at the end of the second movie and then the third would focus fully on Two-Face. Things changed during production I believe. JA can correct me on this.
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Old March 4 2011, 03:03 AM   #825
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I'll agree about Harvey. Then again the original plan was for Harvey to become Two-Face at the end of the second movie and then the third would focus fully on Two-Face. Things changed during production I believe. JA can correct me on this.
If I remember during the writing process Nolan decided against that idea, I guess he wasn't sure about doing a 3rd movie at the time and wanted it all resloved. There was talk about a planned Joker cameo in 3rd movie until Heaths death I believe.
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