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Old February 17 2011, 04:08 PM   #76
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Re: If you could have coffee with Kate Mulgrew what would you say?

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If we are talking about species harmed during Voyager, who cares?

If we are talking about Jeri being harmed by her comments... I think apologizing AT the cons is what she needs to do. She's taking ownership of her comments and telling those people most likely to have heard them that she was wrong.

I think that kind of atonement would mean more to Jeri than Kate sending her a note, or stopping her backstage to say "sorry for being such an ass."
I disagree.
We the public weren't on the set of Voyager.
We don't know what was said or done, why apologize to us?
If you insulted me(for example) apologizing to my neighbor for it is as meaningless as it is cowardly.
If you're sincere about your apology, you say it directly to that person you insulted. That's the honorable & proper thing to do.
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Old February 17 2011, 04:09 PM   #77
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Re: If you could have coffee with Kate Mulgrew what would you say?

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Those "nose to nose" moments early on were "scary" - still makes me laugh when I see them. The other thing that struck me as really unnatural - and in later series, was the hand on the hip. It always reminds me of a pregnant woman with backache. I'd love to know who made the decision to persist with that stance.
And of course there is this scene where - of course I realize that acting alone in front of a camera is not easy - she has the body language of a Thunderbirds puppet. She even raises her hand as if it were operated by a string.
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Old February 18 2011, 02:01 AM   #78
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Re: If you could have coffee with Kate Mulgrew what would you say?

I think you missed the point Mirrorball Man - I was referring to poor direction rather than poor acting. I'd never regard Kate Mulgrew as a poor actor (or one of the greats). She's ompetent and very well suited to certain roles (as are most actors).
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Old February 18 2011, 02:35 AM   #79
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I think you missed the point Mirrorball Man
Actually no, I was just making mine.
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Old February 18 2011, 07:20 AM   #80
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Re: If you could have coffee with Kate Mulgrew what would you say?

I like Janeway in that scene because she looks like lots of other Admirals on viewscreens did when giving orders to Captains. They often look.. quite implacable. As though they know that a Captain is not going to be saluting and saying "yes SIR" and running off to their bidding so they better make it very clear from the start that the great wall of Starfleet is behind their back and there is no point in debate.
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Old February 18 2011, 01:35 PM   #81
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Agree teacake - and in the context of that movie, how else would you expect an Admiral giving order to a captain to behave?
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Old February 18 2011, 05:04 PM   #82
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Re: If you could have coffee with Kate Mulgrew what would you say?

To Kate, "Fantastic work as Janeway."

To Janeway, "Just screw Chakotay, get it out of your system and decide!
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Old February 18 2011, 05:10 PM   #83
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Agree teacake - and in the context of that movie, how else would you expect an Admiral giving order to a captain to behave?
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Old February 18 2011, 05:49 PM   #84
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Re: If you could have coffee with Kate Mulgrew what would you say?

1/2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pgAFV2YxLQ

(Thank the casting godz.)

2/2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NANUp...eature=related
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Old February 18 2011, 06:14 PM   #85
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Agree teacake - and in the context of that movie, how else would you expect an Admiral giving order to a captain to behave?
Like this, right?

oh - I see. You're now saying that the part of Admiral should have been acted just like a Thunderbirds character. Well that's what you said Kate did.

And here I was thinking you were canning Kate as an actor and she hadn't acted the part of Admiral at all well. My bad!
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Old February 18 2011, 06:16 PM   #86
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oh - I see. You're now saying that the part of Admiral should have been acted just like a Thunderbirds character. Well that's what you said Kate did.

And here I was thinking you were canning Kate as an actor and she hadn't acted the part of Admiral at all well. My bad!
Damn. You're just too clever for me.
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Old February 19 2011, 01:34 AM   #87
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oh - I see. You're now saying that the part of Admiral should have been acted just like a Thunderbirds character. Well that's what you said Kate did.

And here I was thinking you were canning Kate as an actor and she hadn't acted the part of Admiral at all well. My bad!
Damn. You're just too clever for me.
lol, not really - but you did walk right into that one
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Old February 20 2011, 12:28 PM   #88
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Re: If you could have coffee with Kate Mulgrew what would you say?

Geneviève Bujold is too sedate, too stilted, and, even if there had been the effects that Kate had (I thought it was interesting that Kate's version had everything, while Bujold's did not, but there's probably an explanation) she wasn't very convincing, especially when that energy wave was about to hit Voyager.
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Old February 20 2011, 12:52 PM   #89
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Re: If you could have coffee with Kate Mulgrew what would you say?

I dunno...I agree Bujold seems to be a bit stilted, but consider Patrick Stewart for the first half of TNG's first season...
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Old February 20 2011, 12:59 PM   #90
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Re: If you could have coffee with Kate Mulgrew what would you say?

Patrick Stewart still had a certain cadence in his voice though. i.e. it was pleasing to listen to.

Bujold on the other hand lacks that cadence. And she's far too soft spoken.
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