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Old February 3 2011, 08:49 AM   #826
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The Mexico jokes did not go down to well.

http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/notas/741742.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-12338053
http://www.economist.com/blogs/prosp...gear_backfires
When I watched it I felt they went a little to far, I also found it a little sad to watch to be honest.
I think it was deliberate, it was like they were daring people to complain.
That is how I saw it too, but I just find that a little sad to be honest.
I guess they're maybe a little sick of complaints over nothing so decided to see if they could manufacture one?
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Old February 3 2011, 02:57 PM   #827
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When QI has caused more offence than you, you have to do something to redress the balance.
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Old February 3 2011, 03:16 PM   #828
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^ Yeah, unlike most of their joking around and making fun of people, it didn't come across very naturally. Especially from Richard, it seemed a fair bit more blatant than he normally is.
Yeah it did seem to be out of character for him, I'm just assuming he picked up Clarksons script by mistake.
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Old February 3 2011, 03:43 PM   #829
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^ Yeah, unlike most of their joking around and making fun of people, it didn't come across very naturally. Especially from Richard, it seemed a fair bit more blatant than he normally is.
Yeah it did seem to be out of character for him, I'm just assuming he picked up Clarksons script by mistake.
Seems that way.

Meh. If Top Gear isn't offensive, they aren't trying hard enough.
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Old February 3 2011, 04:23 PM   #830
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^ Yeah, unlike most of their joking around and making fun of people, it didn't come across very naturally. Especially from Richard, it seemed a fair bit more blatant than he normally is.
Yeah it did seem to be out of character for him, I'm just assuming he picked up Clarksons script by mistake.
I was thinking the same thing. I guess it worked slightly better than if May had said it, but still. You've already got a loud, offensive buffoon, you might as well give him the loud, offensive buffoonery.
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Old February 3 2011, 05:48 PM   #831
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When QI has caused more offence than you, you have to do something to redress the balance.
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Old February 4 2011, 10:07 PM   #832
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They have been made to say sorry. (sort of)
http://www.inthenews.co.uk/news/entertainment/tv/top-gear-apology-over-mexico-slur-$21385417.htm
Our own comedians make jokes about the British being terrible cooks and terrible romantics, and we in turn make jokes about the Italians being disorganised and over dramatic, the French being arrogant and the Germans being over-organised," the BBC said.
"Whilst [the Top Gear segment] may appear offensive to those who have not watched the programme or who are unfamiliar with its humour, the executive producer has made it clear to the ambassador that that was absolutely not the show's intention," the BBC added.
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^ I think that kind of touches on what the issue was. Because Mexico is a poor, developing country, Mexican immigrants to developed countries tend to be marginalized, so these kinds of comments come off as racist. However, had they said the exact same thing about Americans (which Top Gear frequently does, more or less) no one would have batted an eye.
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Old February 5 2011, 04:34 PM   #834
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http://www.thehamsterscage.co.uk/tv/
The Hamster has a web site, where he has also said sorry.
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Old February 6 2011, 10:26 PM   #835
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I really enjoyed this episode.
Although I have heard people who have seen a twitter about the end of the ep,are retweeting the fact James died seriously.
So I expect to see it in one of tomorrows papers.
http://transmission.blogs.topgear.co...ow-discussion/
Post show discussion with two of the presenters and a ghost.
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Old February 7 2011, 02:37 AM   #836
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I really enjoyed this episode.
Although I have heard people who have seen a twitter about the end of the ep,are retweeting the fact James died seriously.
What, even though he was in the studio on Wednesday, introducing the film? What sort of morons are we talking about here?

(probably the same ones who think the new Stig is Sabine Schmitz, when he's almost certainly Tony Davidson...)
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Old February 7 2011, 02:49 AM   #837
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Old February 7 2011, 01:07 PM   #838
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Someone has complained to the BBC about the cyclists jokes.

http://www.kimharding.net/blog/?p=1636
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The BBC charter states the BBC aims to inform, educate and entertain. While some may regard Mr Clarkson comments on running over cyclist because they don’t pay “road tax” as entertain (Top Gear BBC2 07/02/2011 21mins 25seconds in). Others do not see incitement to murder others basis on their choice of transport, as legitimate entertain. A car is a potentially lethal weapon, a pedestrian or cyclist hit by a motor vehicle is at risk of being killed.
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Old February 7 2011, 01:28 PM   #839
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Actually that pissed me off a little too because it's such an idiotic point of view, but of course it was a deliberate provocation and I'm not letting myself get trolled by Clarkson.
For the sake of discussion though:
1) cyclists do pay for roads too since roads are primarily financed through the general tax pool, road tax doesn't even come close to covering the costs
1a) and even if that were not the case, I'm paying for lots of shit I don't need too; public schools for example.
2) if roads were only used by cyclists they would only need minimal maintenance, if at all. Roads get damaged by heavy vehicles, not by bikes, so why should they pay any more than pedestrians pay for roads?
3) Bicycles are vehicles with equal rights to cars for the most part and getting cut off is dangerous. I kind of doubt Clarkson is as big an asshole on the road as the character he plays on Top Gear, but people who do things like should know that it's not a joke to play with other people's lives.
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Old February 7 2011, 01:52 PM   #840
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Someone has complained to the BBC about the cyclists jokes.

http://www.kimharding.net/blog/?p=1636
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The BBC charter states the BBC aims to inform, educate and entertain. While some may regard Mr Clarkson comments on running over cyclist because they don’t pay “road tax” as entertain (Top Gear BBC2 07/02/2011 21mins 25seconds in). Others do not see incitement to murder others basis on their choice of transport, as legitimate entertain. A car is a potentially lethal weapon, a pedestrian or cyclist hit by a motor vehicle is at risk of being killed.
Either brilliant parody or just a sado with nothing to do.

Btw I'm surprised you're not more upset by James dying.
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