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Doctor Who "Bigger on the inside..."

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Old January 22 2011, 02:37 PM   #16
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Re: classic Who should be in colour..

Yes. Colorize it and edit the serials down into something watchable.
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Old January 22 2011, 04:12 PM   #17
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Re: classic Who should be in colour..

Blasphemy!!!

Kelso, you should be ashamed of yourself. And you completely distracted me from my thoughts whilst looking through the links in the OP. I was in a pleasant place, having my coffee and thinking... "Mmm... Zoe..."
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Old January 22 2011, 10:47 PM   #18
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Re: classic Who should be in colour..

^ I don't totally agree with Kelso, but I know where he's coming from.
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Old January 23 2011, 03:20 AM   #19
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I know most do not agree, but I can't help but think that it would just make the older series come to life in a new way..

don't get me wrong..

I love the old school classic black and white..

but there is something to be said for the coloured images found on this site:
http://kittensdirect.com/colourise/season1.html
http://kittensdirect.com/colourise/season2.html
http://kittensdirect.com/colourise/season3.html
http://kittensdirect.com/colourise/season4.html
http://kittensdirect.com/colourise/season5.html
http://kittensdirect.com/colourise/season6.html

watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4mSb...eature=related
It gets my vote. I can't see that there'd be much of a market, though.
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Old January 23 2011, 05:55 AM   #20
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shatnertage wrote: View Post
^ I don't totally agree with Kelso, but I know where he's coming from.
I sense Kelso had tongue in cheek in that last comment, but I've seen people make the comment in total seriousness, not just regarding Doctor Who, but in their rationale for never watching black and white movies like Citizen Kane. My opinion has always been if something as petty as color is a deal-breaker, you don't deserve to watch it, period.

What has me worried is I'm starting to see people exhibit the same prejudice against non-HD and non-3D productions too (and permanent physical books). Worried, and quite sad because these people are squandering themselves out of a lot of entertainment and potential enlightenment. More for me, I guess.

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Old January 23 2011, 01:58 PM   #21
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^ I don't totally agree with Kelso, but I know where he's coming from.
I sense Kelso had tongue in cheek in that last comment, but I've seen people make the comment in total seriousness, not just regarding Doctor Who, but in their rationale for never watching black and white movies like Citizen Kane. My opinion has always been if something as petty as color is a deal-breaker, you don't deserve to watch it, period.

What has me worried is I'm starting to see people exhibit the same prejudice against non-HD and non-3D productions too (and permanent physical books). Worried, and quite sad because these people are squandering themselves out of a lot of entertainment and potential enlightenment. More for me, I guess.

Alex
future generations are going to be sooo spoiled..

"what's black and white tv? what's a fax?? What's a TV, we only immerse ourselves in hologram Vision, where you don't sit on the couch and are part of the interactive adventure.."

that does bother me..

in japan they had the first free form hologram (ala princess lea star wars) singing anime chick.. with AI software..

with 3D, and WII Fit, the Xbox Kinnex and so on..you get up off the couch and move cause of the obsessive need to stop the couch potatoes..

one day, TV will be a bygone era, and 3D immersible holographic serials, or holographic TV will be come the medium..

"don't just watch a show, live it!" or some such nonsense..

by then, you and I will have a passing thought..

ya know..??

compared to what the future may yield..Classic Doctor who in colour didn't sound so bad..
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Old January 23 2011, 03:11 PM   #22
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I too am dismayed by the world spinning, time passing and people changing. Where can I subscribe to your newsletter?
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Old January 24 2011, 01:30 AM   #23
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I sense Kelso had tongue in cheek in that last comment, but I've seen people make the comment in total seriousness
Well... halfway.

Having been filmed in black and white for the first 6 seasons is the least of the old show's problems. But the show did genuinely suffer from the serialized format and could be greatly improved by having the padding edited out.

And as for Citizen Kane... well, I agree that works of art should go unmolested... but we ain't talkin' about a work of art here.

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Old January 24 2011, 02:52 AM   #24
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Re: classic Who should be in colour..

No, no, no, no and no! Leave them the way they were originally shot. They were designed to be filmed in black and white and that is the way they should be seen.

They can clean up the video, add more clarirty and convert it to blu-ray, but darn it, I like my Troughton monocromatic!
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Old January 24 2011, 10:02 AM   #25
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I sense Kelso had tongue in cheek in that last comment, but I've seen people make the comment in total seriousness
Well... halfway.

Having been filmed in black and white for the first 6 seasons is the least of the old show's problems. But the show did genuinely suffer from the serialized format and could be greatly improved by having the padding edited out.

And as for Citizen Kane... well, I agree that works of art should go unmolested... but we ain't talkin' about a work of art here.
The serialized format is the point, that's what the show was intended to be - if you take that out then you have a different show.
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Old January 25 2011, 01:46 AM   #26
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The serialized format is the point, that's what the show was intended to be - if you take that out then you have a different show.
A better one? I can live with that.

ETA: (Actually, I was just being snarky. I don't think it would be a different show at all without the serialized format. In fact, I once watched a reedited "The Curse of the Fenric" and it still felt very much like Doctor Who.)
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Old January 25 2011, 06:11 AM   #27
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The serialized format is the point, that's what the show was intended to be - if you take that out then you have a different show.
A better one? I can live with that.

ETA: (Actually, I was just being snarky. I don't think it would be a different show at all without the serialized format. In fact, I once watched a reedited "The Curse of the Fenric" and it still felt very much like Doctor Who.)
I just meant the 60's era to be honest. You could probably cut down 80's Who in Fenric style and it would work for the most part. The 60's show works best at the pace that the serialized format gives it.
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Old January 25 2011, 10:27 AM   #28
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The trouble with editing it all together is that you always lose the cliffhangers, and though a lot of em are rubbish some are very good.

Plus in this era of not enough hours in the day there's something quite handy about a TV show I can watch in bite sized chunks
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Old January 25 2011, 10:58 AM   #29
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that said, if the BBC did release some colourised epi's would you turn them down?
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Colourising would make no difference to the scripts, direction or performances so what does it actually give us.

Surely the only reason to have them in colour is to get extra sales among people who won't watch B&W and lets face it if they can't cope with B&W the pacing and style of the 60's episodes will be just as problematic!
Agreed.

Colourisation would add nothing worthwhile to classic Who.
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Old January 25 2011, 08:44 PM   #30
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that said, if the BBC did release some colourised epi's would you turn them down?
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Colourising would make no difference to the scripts, direction or performances so what does it actually give us.

Surely the only reason to have them in colour is to get extra sales among people who won't watch B&W and lets face it if they can't cope with B&W the pacing and style of the 60's episodes will be just as problematic!
Agreed.

Colourisation would add nothing worthwhile to classic Who.
Ted Turner would disagree..
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