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The Next Generation All Good Things come to an end...but not here.

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Old January 8 2011, 02:58 PM   #16
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^^ Thing is though, there are loads of people who would no doubt do all that checking for free if they were given access to the material.
Sure, but I doubt CBS would allow us to get our grubby little hands on the original footage, they just know that a good percentage of the volunteers would try to sneak a few frames out of the archives and into their collections.
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Old January 8 2011, 03:01 PM   #17
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As I understand it they have all footage, including various unused takes. That's one of the problems, to get HD episodes they would have to check tons of film, pick the right takes and recreate the episodes from scratch, redoing every single effect, not just space scenes, but view screens, transporter effects and every friggin blip that was added in post-production.
I've misunderstood the previous posts. I assumed that some of the original shot film was missing. I knew they'd need to redo all of the effects/comp works from scratch though, and was aware of the huge undertaking to redo the editing. But as long as all of the pieces are there so that it's possible, it will happen some day.

That's the kind of project I would kill to work on. And I know I could do at least as good as the remastered TOS
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Old January 8 2011, 03:12 PM   #18
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^^ Thing is though, there are loads of people who would no doubt do all that checking for free if they were given access to the material.
Sure, but I doubt CBS would allow us to get our grubby little hands on the original footage, they just know that a good percentage of the volunteers would try to sneak a few frames out of the archives and into their collections.
Well this is true, unfortunately. However, bring the volunteers to the footage rather than the other way around, and have the process overseen properly. Minimal cost to CBS, and fans get what they want. Plus, if there are any frames going spare......!
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Old January 8 2011, 08:37 PM   #19
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I think this thread demonstrates the inherent problem in a project like this. So much fanboyish "what TNG needs is more ACTION and we need different cuts and throw in this footage even though the director chose to cut it out" and on and on. What several people here are talking about is not finding a way to release TNG in high def, but to find a way to turn TNG into a different show.

No thank you.

I'd much rather keep my standard def copies of TNG then let people get ahold of it and do that crap to it.
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Old January 9 2011, 08:01 AM   #20
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I think this thread demonstrates the inherent problem in a project like this. So much fanboyish "what TNG needs is more ACTION and we need different cuts and throw in this footage even though the director chose to cut it out" and on and on. What several people here are talking about is not finding a way to release TNG in high def, but to find a way to turn TNG into a different show.

No thank you.

I'd much rather keep my standard def copies of TNG then let people get ahold of it and do that crap to it.
My dad is the biggest TOS fan in existence. He wasn't sure what to expect when I got him the TOS Remastered set.

He freakin' loved it!! I have to agree with him: They basically kept the heart and soul of the show, but drastically increased the visual package. Because of our love for a series, we are willing to overlook certain things, like watching the same matte shot over and over and over and over, etc.

If you remember the TOS episode "The Doomsday Device", watch the original, and then watch the remastered version. I think only stubborn people would say that the remastered sucked. I would say the remastered version caught the exact look and feel that the original story wanted to convey, but didn't have the tech/budget for.

TNG is the same way. There are tons of scenes in it that should be more grandiose, bigger, and higher in scope.

Remember the huge fleet that Starfleet was going to send to blockade the Romulans? There were supposed to be like 20-30 ships, but we got to see 3 kitbashes. I'd LOVE to see all freakin' 30 ships in that shot as it was intended!

Another bonus is that hopefully they can redo all the hand phaser beams. First they need to make them look steady, and not like someone is pissing (an unstable water jet). Second, they need to make them instantaneous. None of this "beam is streaming over to the target at a speed of a painball". It should be "You pressed the trigger, the target is getting hit simultaneously!"

Sadly, the best looking phaser beams were shown on "Enterprise". The remastered TNG beams should be done the same or better.
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Old January 10 2011, 04:31 AM   #21
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As I understand it they have all footage, including various unused takes. That's one of the problems, to get HD episodes they would have to check tons of film, pick the right takes and recreate the episodes from scratch, redoing every single effect, not just space scenes, but view screens, transporter effects and every friggin blip that was added in post-production.
I'm pretty sure the editors wrote down which reels of film they used, and the timecodes of the in and out points. So no, you wouldn't have to pick the same takes, it'd all be written down for you.

The effects is the real problem, you're quite right they'd all have to be done in higher resolution- quite a costly undertaking.
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Old January 10 2011, 04:46 PM   #22
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I think we're more likely to get a couple of "Best Of" sets as opposed to the whole series - perhaps as a mechanism to test the market.
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Old January 10 2011, 06:42 PM   #23
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Wouldn't surprise me if you got a HD BOBW or just a HD Borg set.
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