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Re: Fan Filmmaker's Primer
The result? I extensively rewrote the entire thing and added about 20 more pages to it. That was a little daunting, but as I've worked on it in the last few months, I've been able to whittle away about 8 of those, so I think the film is manageable again. One other thing that has helped greatly is having someone else direct. His input has exposed a lot of story flaws that I never saw and has helped the script immensely. |
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Location: Maurice in San Francisco
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Re: Fan Filmmaker's Primer
I also love table reads. Last year I had a bunch of actors go through a script several times, but we'd switch who was reading what role each time, so I got to hear a bunch of different takes on the same characters. One actor improvised something for a character that was so funny that it changed the way we write that character now.
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Location: Maurice in San Francisco
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Re: Fan Filmmaker's Primer
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"Star Trek…at times sparkled with true ingenuity, and pure science fiction approaches, and at other times was more carnival like, and very much more the creature of television than the creature of a legitimate literary form." Last edited by Maurice Navidad; December 23 2010 at 01:21 AM. |
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Re: Fan Filmmaker's Primer
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Re: Fan Filmmaker's Primer
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Location: Maurice in San Francisco
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Re: Fan Filmmaker's Primer
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Location: Cincinnati, OH
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Re: Fan Filmmaker's Primer
Having read a number of fan film scripts (and pro scripts do it to, often) my beef would be with overwriting. Often you get something like: EXT. SPACE The Enterprise cruises slowly THROUGH THE FRAME, from right to left, at an angle bisecting the geometric balance of the galaxial plane. We MOVE IN SLOWLY until CAMERA is square on the mighty vessel which PASSES DIRECTLY UNDER CAMERA. CAMERA SWIVELS and ROTATES and REGAINS image of ship as it now MOVES AWAY from our perspective, and grows smaller moment by moment. Or something much like that. For Chrissake, just say: EXT. SPACE The Enterprise cruises by. or even simpler: EXT. SPACE Enterprise flyby. The same goes for all scenes. There is often excessive description of every bridge establishing shot. What every single character at every station is doing is described (and what they're thinking, too, believe it or not). Instead of all that, just list the characters present and say something like "all intent at their stations." "Don't direct on paper," is a maxim I have often heard. Which doesn't mean that you can't write with flavor and verve! Sir Rhosis
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Lieutenant Commander
Location: Ottawa, Canada
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Re: Fan Filmmaker's Primer
As a television director I really enjoy alot of texture and description from writers in their scripts. It allows me to really feel the tone and visualize the story as I'm going through it, like reading a good book. Obviously the first example you gave above is a bit rediculous, but that's just bad structure and lack of literal focus. I find the best thing about getting a whole lot of material to work with is that I don't have to use it if I don't want to. It's only there to help me understand what the writer is visualizing when crafting the story. The better I understand the concept, the better I am at the execution. I suppose the downside is that it takes a little longer to read them, heheheh. |
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Commodore
Location: Cincinnati, OH
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Re: Fan Filmmaker's Primer
Sir Rhosis
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Location: Defying Gravity
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Re: Fan Filmmaker's Primer
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Re: Fan Filmmaker's Primer
http://forums.startreknewvoyages.com...hp?board=283.0
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Rear Admiral
Location: Maurice in San Francisco
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Re: Fan Filmmaker's Primer
Here's some examples of how I handle stuff like this, from the aborted "Atlantis Invaders" script: In these I'm conveying what the shots should feel like rather than the specifics of the composition. That's texture without being overly specific.EXT. SPACE Here it's about what the performance is like without telling the actor how to do it.INT. EXETER BRIDGE EXT. COLONY -- RAILING -- SUNSET
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Lieutenant Commander
Location: Nr Cambridge, UK
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Re: Fan Filmmaker's Primer
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Rear Admiral
Location: Maurice in San Francisco
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Re: Fan Filmmaker's Primer
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Writer, Battlestar Urantia
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