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Old December 13 2010, 05:51 PM   #106
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Re: Charting the Novel-verse

Okay, the A Time To... series has been on my backburner for a while, I may have to get those moved up in my personal queue.

One other, where does the big Borg battle thing start? Again, I've tried to read the first two pages, but I'm not sure if it would be under TNG or Titan.

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Old December 13 2010, 06:04 PM   #107
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^Depends on how you look at it.

Endgame (the Voyager finale) is what "pissed off" the Borg
The TNG Novel Resistance is where they first start to appear and cause problems after that.
The TNG Novel Before Dishonor is where the first really big thing occurs.
The Destiny Trilogy is the whole big event -- and likely is the more direct answer to your actual question.
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Old December 13 2010, 06:07 PM   #108
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Greg Cox wrote four books that tie themselves together through the use of Khan and Gary Seven. They are all tied to the larger novelverse through the use of the flag for Khan established in the novel Section 31: Abyss, a part of the post-finale DS9 series. (Although the depiction of the Tal Shiar in Assignment Eternity differs somewhat from the depiction in the "Vulcan's Noun" series.)
  • Assignment Eternity
  • The Eugenics Wars: The Rise and Fall of Khan Noonian Singh, Volume 1
  • The Eugenics Wars: The Rise and Fall of Khan Noonian Singh, Volume 2
  • To Reign in Hell: The Exile of Khan Noonian Singh
Cox referenced "The Aliens Are Coming" by Dayton Ward from Strange New Worlds III in The Eugenics Wars.

Coming late to the party . . . .

My Gary Seven books also contain a tip of the hat to some earlier Gary Seven stories written by Howard Weinstein for DC Comics. I lifted Howie's name for Seven's unseen sponsors, "The Aegis," from the comics . . . .
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Old December 13 2010, 07:13 PM   #109
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^Depends on how you look at it.

Endgame (the Voyager finale) is what "pissed off" the Borg
The TNG Novel Resistance is where they first start to appear and cause problems after that.
The TNG Novel Before Dishonor is where the first really big thing occurs.
The Destiny Trilogy is the whole big event -- and likely is the more direct answer to your actual question.
You left out Greater Than the Sum, which ties up the loose ends from Before Dishonor and shows the beginning of the Borg invasion from Destiny.

What's potentially misleading here is that the Borg incidents in Resistance, Before Dishonor, and most of Greater Than the Sum are actually unconnected to the big invasion that begins in the epilogue of GTTS and continues through Destiny. To all indications, it's pure coincidence that they happen so close together. But the earlier Borg incidents are important in setting up certain character arcs, particularly Picard's.
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Old December 13 2010, 09:34 PM   #110
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Thanks all. I got out of Trek lit for many years, and have been dipping back into it in the past couple of years, but without any kind of game plan.
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Old December 18 2010, 09:40 AM   #111
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^Depends on how you look at it.

Endgame (the Voyager finale) is what "pissed off" the Borg
The TNG Novel Resistance is where they first start to appear and cause problems after that.
The TNG Novel Before Dishonor is where the first really big thing occurs.
To be specific, TNG: Resistance and TNG: Before Dishonor depict a single cube that has been cut off from the rest of the Collective attempting to invade the Federation. They're followed up by TNG: Greater Than the Sum, which features the Enterprise crew chasing down the last remnant of that cube's crew, who had assimilated a Starfleet vessel and escaped Federation space.

Destiny, on the other hand, features the full Collective itself invading the Federation. The Collective never even knew about that single rogue cube, so far as we know.

As for the A Time To... series, I'd recommend only reading the last three: A Time to Kill by David Mack, A Time to Heal by David Mack, and A Time for War, A Time for Peace by Keith R.A. DeCandido. From there, read Articles of the Federation by DeCandido, and then, from there, if you'd like, read TNG: Resistance and TNG: Before Dishonor. However, if you're looking to cut off a book, skip those two and move straight to TNG: Greater Than the Sum.
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Old December 18 2010, 04:33 PM   #112
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I'd also recommend Q & A between Resistance and Before Dishonor. While it is disconnected from the Borg story it does introduce one recurring and one new regular (or recurring we don't know how long the character will be around yet) character. It's also a really fun Q adventure that ties most of his appearances together into one big story.
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Old December 19 2010, 03:58 PM   #113
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I'd also recommend Q & A between Resistance and Before Dishonor. While it is disconnected from the Borg story it does introduce one recurring and one new regular (or recurring we don't know how long the character will be around yet) character. It's also a really fun Q adventure that ties most of his appearances together into one big story.
Agreed . Q&A is a fantastic book. A quick read and it's not tied down by all the Borg stuff that happens around it . KRAD did a great job on that one .
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Old March 10 2011, 05:27 PM   #114
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Two questions about points made in the first few posts. Which story in The Brave in the Bold referenced which story in The Badlands? And which story in the Voyager relaunch referenced Isabo's Shirt?

Thanks for the help.
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Old March 11 2011, 01:18 AM   #115
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^ I don't know about the former, but the latter is Full Circle.
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Old March 11 2011, 02:55 AM   #116
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Which story in The Brave in the Bold referenced which story in The Badlands?
I don't know for sure, but I'd guess that it was the Voyager stories in each, because they were both set in the same narrow timeframe between Voyager's launch and its abduction to the Delta Quadrant.
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Old March 12 2011, 03:06 AM   #117
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Ok thanks, working on a new trek lit related project and wanted to get those specific points of info.
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Old March 14 2011, 01:49 AM   #118
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Hmmm, it seems the Voyager Brave and the Bold story happens before the Voyager Badlands story. So I don't think that's the solution since the first story can't reference something that hasn't happened yet.
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Old March 14 2011, 01:52 AM   #119
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I might have made the connection based on the historians note.
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Old March 16 2011, 12:38 AM   #120
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I haven't read either book since they came out, but it could also be a matter of character names or backstories.
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