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View Poll Results: Rate Seize The Fire.
Outstanding 6 5.31%
Above Average 24 21.24%
Average 32 28.32%
Below Average 33 29.20%
Poor 18 15.93%
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Old December 12 2010, 06:46 AM   #121
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Re: Typhon Pact: Seize The Fire review thread

hey, just saying what some of you are thinking. Everyone can't be smiles and sunshine ... TROLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOlllololol.
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Old December 12 2010, 09:39 AM   #122
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hey, just saying what some of you are thinking.
Let this be clear, mr troll:
You speak for yourself. Not for me, not for someone else.

You most likely think you appear cool or whatever.
You are only embarassing yourself in front of us.
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Old December 12 2010, 10:50 PM   #123
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hey, just saying what some of you are thinking. Everyone can't be smiles and sunshine ... TROLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOlllololol.
Ummmmmmm, how about..... mabye...... NO. I've been more than happy with the books that have come since Destiny (I do admit I haven't read Seize the Fire yet, so that may change), but even if it does it won't be enough make me change my mind about my opinion of the STL line or the authors who work on it.
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Old December 12 2010, 11:11 PM   #124
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Re: Typhon Pact: Seize The Fire review thread

Almost finished with the book.
I am neither a writer or editor, but would expect the Typhoon Pact not to last very long, maybe within a few years.
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Old December 12 2010, 11:32 PM   #125
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kaysea wrote: View Post
lol, ok it was insulting. I wanted to get under the writers skin,especially those that read these board in order to goad them into putting more effort into these trek novels. Ok, its not the best way to encourage but whatever helps in creating better quality trek lit. So ...

(to the Trek lit writers & their future novels) Show me and everyone else if you can create a Trek novel worthy of a Hugo or Nebula award ... or are you just another pulp fiction writer working on your 40th novel?
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hey, just saying what some of you are thinking. Everyone can't be smiles and sunshine ... TROLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOlllololol.
kaysea, you need to stop with this sort of thing. While you don't have to "be all smiles and sunshine" you do need to try to contribute to the board in a non-trollish fashion. Negative critique is one thing, this is another. Next time a formal infraction may be given.

Steve Roby wrote: View Post
So, ignoring the troll (and if admitting to insulting regulars here and passing it off with a lol isn't trolling, what is?)...
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Let this be clear, mr troll:
Steve Roby and ProtoAvatar, calling someone a troll is itself also trolling, please stop. Next time please use the notify mod function and let Rosalind or myself handle it.

Thanks.
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Old December 13 2010, 01:17 AM   #126
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I am 220 pages into the book, I am about to give up. Can someone please tell me what happens
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Old December 13 2010, 02:54 AM   #127
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I am 220 pages into the book, I am about to give up. Can someone please tell me what happens
Rosebud is really Keyser Soze, and he flies away with Viktor Laszlo at the end after discovering he's actually a ghost. Oh, and the butler did it.
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Old December 13 2010, 04:30 AM   #128
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I'm about halfway through ZSG and have StF sitting on the top of the stack to be read next and I find myself looking at other books to read instead. I'll probably read StF or at least start it but some of the reviews have really dampened my enthusiasm.
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Old December 13 2010, 05:27 AM   #129
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Same here. I'm a huge Titan fan, and I was really looking forward to this one, but I'm quickly losing enthusiasm. Usually I still try to tell myself that it could still be good, I know SZG got alot of mixed reviews, but so far I've been liking it. Sadly in the case the reviews are so overwhelmingly negative that it's really killing my anticipation. I'm still gonna read it, since I already payed for it, but that's pretty much the only reason now.

Just out of curiosity, are there any major events in the story that would have a big impact on future books?
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Old December 13 2010, 06:08 AM   #130
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Big Titan fan here too. Christopher's done some great work with that series. It's too bad it's hit this bump. The way the publishing world is these days any drop off in sales could spell the end of a series. Ìd hate for `Titan to go the way of Gorkon and SCE.
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Old December 13 2010, 11:30 AM   #131
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Re: Typhon Pact: Seize The Fire review thread

Just finished 'Seize the Fire' and must admit to having found it a bit of a struggle as well. I've been wondering over the weekend and think I've managed to put my my finger on why (for me), it just doesn't seem to resonate.


It doesn't feel principally like a Titan story. To me the Gorn Hegemony was understandably the principle storyline and that they shoehorned 'Starship XXXX' into the story to give it a necessary familiarity.


Now when I look at 'Zero Sum Game' I realise I'm seeing exactly the same thing – The Breen story took priority and they dropped Bashir/Ezri/Aventine into the story at the last minute. I missed it at the time (possibly because I find the whole Ezri/Aventine thing a little dull) but If I look at it now, I firmly believe that you could have done a wholesale 'flip' of the Titan/Aventine appearances between the two novels and the story itself wouldn't have made a blind bit of difference to the outcome. Both appearances from a Starfleet crew appear tacked on to the main stories – 'Tell us more about race XYZ in the Typhon Pact.”


Don't get me wrong, I found exploration of both the Breen and the Gorn hierachy's, back-stories and culture fascinating and well implemented. What struggled to resonate for me was the Starfleet parts. As discussed up-thread, Riker seemed 'off', Vale wise-cracked, Ree reminded everyone he looked like a dinosaur, Keru was beardy etc etc. It was a bit 'paint-by-number Titan.'


Now I don't think I noticed this previously in ZSG, because (due to my own preferences) I'm just not that 'into' Ezri as a Captain and wouldn't necessarily notice if her character seemed 'off' (principally that's my gripe with the character as a whole in the first place - she's all over the place!). In Riker and Titan as a whole however, it stood out like a sore thumb.


I might re-read ZSG again and see where I could/would have swapped over crews/ships and whether there would be any definable difference.
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Old December 13 2010, 03:46 PM   #132
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Zero Sum Game is about the Breen, not the Tholians. We don't get the Tholian story until Paths of Disharmony in January.
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Old December 13 2010, 03:58 PM   #133
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Zero Sum Game is about the Breen, not the Tholians. We don't get the Tholian story until Paths of Disharmony in January.
Gah - brain-freeze! post now corrected
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Old December 13 2010, 08:39 PM   #134
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Given the downright negative reviews of Seize the Fire, it's making me afraid to even buy the book. I have to ask - without giving anything away, is there anything important that happens in this book to the Titan crew? Could a Titan fan skip this novel completely without missing anything important? Part of me thinks I'd be better off just passing on this novel so that I don't waste my hard-earned money.
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Old December 13 2010, 09:38 PM   #135
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Finished and did not see the book as that good. maybe because it is concentraiting on TP members?
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