AMC's The Walking Dead Season 1 Discussion & Spoilers

[SicOne]

PsychoPere wrote:

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The code is [ spoiler="description" ] spoiler here [ /spoiler ]. Alternatively, when you're in the Editor, it's the last option on the formatting bar (the face with the "x" for a mouth).

It may never have been explicitly stated by the characters, but the way the situation is handled makes it pretty damn clear that Shane was Judith's father.

If anyone is pregnant, it's Lori because the dramatic storytelling possibilities are far greater with her than with Andrea.

Andrea and Dale do start a relationship in the comics, and the television series has already started laying the foundation for that down the road.

Thanks for the assist, PsychoPere.

[RJDiogenes]

It's unlikely that they could walk across the ocean floor. It's muddy and there are all kinds of ravines and they'd be buffeted by the currents and so forth; and they wouldn't be able to see, so they'd need some magical sense of direction. Maybe they drift like seaweed until they hit land.

As to why they're not eaten by fish, perhaps the zombification process makes them unpalatable.

[Reverend]

I think the bit about zombie blood being more like gel than liquid was probably supposed to be how they were able to function at that depth-not the *deep* bottom, but at the crush depth of a Chinese nuclear sub IIRC-as to how they got there I think it had something to do with freighters overloaded with thousands of smuggled refugees dumping everyone into the drink after an outbreak. It's not shown to be much of a direct threat, more of an ongoing nuisance in the clean-up period with ghouls occasionally washing up on coast lines or just walking out of the surf. Either way, swimming in the ocean, seas or lakes would no longer hold much appeal.

[Canadave]

SicOne wrote:

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Yeah, that's what I thought, too. Certainly the Zs don't need oxygen to survive, at least in the Max Brooks Universe ("Maxiverse"?), but all that water pressure should squeeze the Zs heads like zits, destroying the brain.

Walking across a bay or a river? I can see that. But not the deep, deep ocean. And how do they climb to the continental shelf? Gaping plot hole, Max.

There is a bit of a handwave by Brooks—getting turned into Zach changes the body's physiology so that it is able to withstand things that regular humans cannot. Such as internal fluids congealing to more of a gel, inexplicable resistance to rot\decay, and their ability to walk on the ocean floor. Does it make sense? Perhaps not, but he does at least acknowledge it.

[Morpheus 02]

Reverend wrote:

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I think the bit about zombie blood being more like gel than liquid was probably supposed to be how they were able to function at that depth-not the *deep* bottom, but at the crush depth of a Chinese nuclear sub IIRC-as to how they got there I think it had something to do with freighters overloaded with thousands of smuggled refugees dumping everyone into the drink after an outbreak. It's not shown to be much of a direct threat, more of an ongoing nuisance in the clean-up period with ghouls occasionally washing up on coast lines or just walking out of the surf. Either way, swimming in the ocean, seas or lakes would no longer hold much appeal.

i think that indeed is how zombies could cross oceans or wash ashore.

Assuming that the initial zombification started suddenly, all over the world. If you're on a Carnival cruise, and justhappen to be in the middle of the ocean (or at leats in between islands), it's possible that a boatload (literally) of people get infected. And as it's a new thing, people who have gotten bitten may jump overboard to get away, not knowing that they'll get zombified anyway.

And certainly issues like smuggled people will add to it as well.

[Reverend]

^As I recall a lot of the zombie dumping came about after the panic hit India and there were literally MILLIONS of people crowding the coastal docks trying to get the hell out of the "white zone." Imagine how many people you can cram onto just one of those huge bulk freighters if you packed them it tight. In those kind of cramped conditions all it would take is for one person to be able to hide a bite and suddenly the masses of ocean ghouls isn't so surprising.

[Silvercrest]

Male announcer: The red zone is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only. There is no stopping in the white zone.
Female announcer: No, the white zone is for loading of passengers and there is no stopping in a RED zone.

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Male announcer: The red zone has ALWAYS been for loading and unloading of zombies only.

Female announcer: Don't tell me which zone is for stopping and which zone is for loading!!

Male announcer: Listen, Betty. Don't start with your white zone shit again.

[SicOne]

^ Female announcer:I know what you're really saying. You want me to get an abortion!

Male announcer:It's the only sensible alternative...

[JD]

^What is that from?

[Silvercrest]

The movie "Airplane!". It was the "white zone" reference that started me off.

[Temis the Vorta]

Has anyone ever done a Zombies-on-an-Airplane movie?

[Mark_Nguyen]

Sorta... The recent "Resident Evil" CGI movie had an infected guy zombifying pretty much the whole plane before it crashed into the airport terminal, whereupon the fun (and the movie) properly got going.

Mark

[Silvercrest]

Yes! There was the low-budget "Flight of the Living Dead" a couple years ago. And of course, the "B-17" sequence from "Heavy Metal."

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Temis the Red-Nosed Vorta wrote:

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Has anyone ever done a Zombies-on-an-Airplane movie?

There was a Clive Barker zombie tale, I think it was called Night of the Living Dead: London, where that happened. A woman is bitten by a zombie and manages to board a plane, where she turns and infects all the passengers and crew. The plane lands - don't ask me how - and the zombies spill out and wreak havoc throughout London.