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Old December 5 2010, 08:56 PM   #16
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Re: Rudolph: a homosexual metaphor?

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Hermes and Mercury are the same "messenger of the gods", and while they represent a lot of things, love isn't one of them.
Apparently, you've never received an FTD flower arrangment.

But, yeah, you make a good point. Obviously, therefore, Hermie was short for Hermaphroditus, the mythological "female boy."

Still fits.
I'm just remembering the bit from "Justified" where seeing Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer inspired a con to become a dentist.

"Remember the one elf, Hermie, who wanted to be a dentist?"

"Oh, yeah, the little gay dude! Are you tryin' to tell me you're gay?"

"I'm not gay!"
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Old December 5 2010, 10:07 PM   #17
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Re: Rudolph: a homosexual metaphor?

David cgc wrote: View Post
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Hermes and Mercury are the same "messenger of the gods", and while they represent a lot of things, love isn't one of them.
Apparently, you've never received an FTD flower arrangment.

But, yeah, you make a good point. Obviously, therefore, Hermie was short for Hermaphroditus, the mythological "female boy."

Still fits.
I'm just remembering the bit from "Justified" where seeing Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer inspired a con to become a dentist.

"Remember the one elf, Hermie, who wanted to be a dentist?"

"Oh, yeah, the little gay dude! Are you tryin' to tell me you're gay?"

"I'm not gay!"


See. I'm not the only one who's figured it out.
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Old December 5 2010, 10:38 PM   #18
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Re: Rudolph: a homosexual metaphor?

So, is Rudolph the only gay reindeer? Or do Dancer and Prancer go shopping together at the Pottery Barn and spend their evenings listening to Judy Garland records?
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Old December 5 2010, 10:42 PM   #19
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Think the OP has spent to much time over-analyzing fictional reindeer.

"Fictional"?




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Old December 5 2010, 11:25 PM   #20
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So, is Rudolph the only gay reindeer? Or do Dancer and Prancer go shopping together at the Pottery Barn and spend their evenings listening to Judy Garland records?
Dancer and Prancer are females, as is Vixen.
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Old December 6 2010, 12:55 AM   #21
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So, is Rudolph the only gay reindeer? Or do Dancer and Prancer go shopping together at the Pottery Barn and spend their evenings listening to Judy Garland records?
Dancer and Prancer are females, as is Vixen.
I had a tin and only one of them were females...

So to me they are like the Smurfs, they are are gay because they don't want to touch the one whore.
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Old December 6 2010, 01:26 AM   #22
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How do we know that tin is canon? Maybe it's been retconned. Have you noticed John Byrne around?
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Old December 6 2010, 01:59 AM   #23
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Re: Rudolph: a homosexual metaphor?

Is Rudolph intended as a homosexual metaphor? I have no idea.

Is it interesting to read it as a homosexual metaphor? Sure, why not. Outsider narratives can easily be related to that experience.

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But, yeah, you make a good point. Obviously, therefore, Hermie was short for Hermaphroditus, the mythological "female boy."
Actually the name comes from the fact that Hermaphroditus was the love child of Hermes and Aphrodite (he actually wasn't, y'know, hs namesake to begin with, but he was so unbelievably hot that some girl decided she wanted to never part from him and hey-yo, things went south as they do in myths...)
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Old December 6 2010, 03:00 AM   #24
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In their travels, they are menaced by a giant "man eater", the Bumble, whose mouth looks like a vagina with teeth.
This is a joke post, mocking the whole idea of seeing meanings in TV shows and movies.

Alas, that ^^^ clearly shows whoever wrote this has never seen a vagina. Who are we supposed to laugh at?
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Old December 6 2010, 03:18 AM   #25
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In their travels, they are menaced by a giant "man eater", the Bumble, whose mouth looks like a vagina with teeth.
This is a joke post, mocking the whole idea of seeing meanings in TV shows and movies.
Wow. Someone finally got it. Kudos.
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Old December 6 2010, 03:23 AM   #26
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G-man, it's the internet. I regularly see the most preposterous statements presented as the baldest fact. The line for satire is basically nonexistent.
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Old December 6 2010, 07:13 AM   #27
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Re: Rudolph: a homosexual metaphor?

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This is a joke post, mocking the whole idea of seeing meanings in TV shows and movies.
Wow. Someone finally got it. Kudos.
I half-figured the OP was pulling our collective leg. What this board needs is an emoticon for “irony/satire.”
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I had a tin and only one of them were females...
A “tin”? I’m missing something here. Are you talking about canned reindeer meat?
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Old December 6 2010, 03:33 PM   #28
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No I had a tin that was full of popcorn, you see theme aroundd often during the holidays. On the tin was the reindeer and only one was female. Unless it was in drag then none were female.
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Old December 6 2010, 05:54 PM   #29
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This thread is gay.
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Old December 6 2010, 06:06 PM   #30
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Re: Rudolph: a homosexual metaphor?

I can see the anti-homosexual mataphor in there but I don't think it's specifically a metaphor about that but more about simply outcasting people for "being different" period. I mean I was outcast in school, not allowed by to the cool kids to play with them and all that simply because I was smart and wore glasses. So I saw a lot of myself in Rudolph.

So it's not a metaphor about homosexuality so much as it's a metaphor for "don't out cast people who're different because you never know what they are capable of."

I do find it interesting his peers didn't like Rudolph until they were shown Rudolph could do something for them. So it was less, "hey, Rudolph is a good guy and we should feel bad for outcasting him!" and more "hey this freak can do things for us!"

And why were Santa's reindeer such dicks anyway?
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