Hans Zimmer will score "Superman"

[Aragorn]

Harvey wrote:

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And yet none of the clips you've selected come from the composers work in the 2000s. Was that deliberate or am I reading too much into it?

You're reading too much into it. I didn't want to spend too much time finding YouTube clips only to have embedding disabled.

And with that I'm done with this thread.

[Starbreaker]

He has a hard time coming up with catchy tunes. Oh well.

[Samuel Walters]

Starbreaker wrote:

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He has a hard time coming up with catchy tunes. Oh well.

Eh? Plenty of people find his tunes catchy (POTC anyone?). The problem is that he's all-too-often cannibalized his old music for new films maing many of his scores sound essentially the same. But he has tried branching out a bit of late -- Sherlock Holmes was more-or-less an intriguing departure. Inception has gotten a bit of praise (though, personally, I don't like it). Using Zimmer for something as iconic as Superman is, IMO, high-risk/high-reward. The result could be something that's powerful and fun. Or it could be more of the same. There's no way of knowing, really, until it's done.

[23skidoo]

There was a thread bemoaning the loss of the John Williams score (assuming that happens - Williams' score for the Harry Potter films has been retained despite all the different composers in the later films). But I seem to have misplaced it.

I for one am all for the idea of bringing in a new composer for Superman. I was one of the 24 people who liked Superman Returns, but while it was a thrill to see the updated version of the Williams score, I thought it was a mistake because it immediately reminded everyone of Christopher Reeve, which deep-sixed Brandon Routh from the get-go. Yeah, yeah - James Bond Theme, Doctor Who Theme, Star Wars Theme - but for whatever reasons the Williams theme for Superman is not associated with multiple actors over the history of a franchise, but with one actor. And it just didn't feel right for it to be used in the Singer film.

Whether it's Hans Zimmer or whomever, it doesn't really matter in the end. The James Bond films are really the only films of this particular type that even bother with opening credits anymore, so really all Zimmer needs to do is come up with some catchy plink-plonk to go with the flying sequences, and maybe some semi-sappy love theme for Lois and Clark, and then some generic filler music for the end credits to play while everyone files out. (Boy am I sounding cynical today or what! Part of it is due to my annoyance over being forced by crowds to exit Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows within 20 seconds of the end music starting, when I would have preferred to hang about and listen to it.)

Alex

[Samuel Walters]

^ The end music of Deathly Hallows is just tracked music from elsewhere in the score and isn't a classic "End Credits" suite. So if you've got the soundtrack, you've got all the music you would have heard during the credits. As for Williams' themes in Potter 4-7.1 ... well, outside of Goblet, you barely hear any of his work (other than the occasional use of "Hedwig's Theme"). Desplat's Deathly Hallow's score makes only minimal use of "Hedwig's Theme" and is, by and large, new material.

As for Superman, I was one of the first in line to see the new Superman Returns once I heard that Ottman was going to use Williams' classic Supes themes. But I was underwhelmed by Ottman's usage of the themes and, like you said, they really didn't help the film establish an identity of its own (though, the score was the least of the film's problems, IMO).

So as much as I would love to hear The Superman March in the theater again, I'm good with a new approach.

[Hugo Rune]

Well, I'm not sure if he's the right fit - his adventure music in the past hasn't really thrilled me. However, his work on The Thin Red Line is still one of my favourite scores of the 1990's and I thought Time from Inception is one of the more haunting pieces of film score I've heard this year.

Admittedly I've seen VERY few films this year due to time constraints and a lack of much interesting hitting screens around me, but Time really resonated with me.


Hugo - You mustn't be afraid to dream a little bigger, darling.

[Admiral_Young]

I love the "theme" for "Batman Begins" which I believe was his motif for Bruce and is all throughout the soundtrack. I still want a "Batman Begins" complete score like what we got with "The Dark Knight". I prefer the "Batman Begins" score to "The Dark Knight" which I feel is much more edgier, grittier while Begins is more ethereal and serene. If that makes sense. I'm really interested to see what he does with "Superman".

[tharpdevenport]

Good news, NON fans of Zimmer:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/blo...man-fast-56714

^ From the link...

Zimmer: Right! John Williams, the greatest living composer -- full stop. And that happens to be one of his greatest themes. So no. And I’m not thinking of rewriting Beethoven’s ninth either. It just sounds like a thankless task, you know? So that’s unequivocally a no. I have never spoken with Zack Snyder.

[Samuel Walters]

I was just about to quote that myself. Excellent quote. And he's right. Following in Williams' footsteps would be a thankless task. But I'm sure someone will do it. I somehow doubt the film will entice a new authentic Williams score -- even if I'd love to hear one.

[JacksonArcher]

I really hope this doesn't mean Tyler Bates will be composing the score after all.

[davejames]

Damn. This is looking more and more like it's just going to be a typical Zack Snyder production.

All I can hope is that Nolan's involvement really inspires him to take it to another level. Unfortunately, I have a feeling Watchmen is about as good as he ever gets.

[JacksonArcher]

Yeah, I'm not really that optimistic about this project either to be honest. The fact that Chris Nolan has basically handed it off to Snyder and it's now his film now also disappoints me, since I thought Nolan would have been just a wee bit more involved, but I guess not as he's focusing on The Dark Knight Rises (and admittedly, as he should).

I'm just not a really big fan of Zack Snyder and his directorial sensibilities, so even though I'm somewhat hopeful because of Goyer's script and Nolan's initial involvement as a producer, my optimism is waning fast.

[tharpdevenport]

JacksonArcher wrote:

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I really hope this doesn't mean Tyler Bates will be composing the score after all.

"composing" used very, very loosely...

[davejames]

JacksonArcher wrote:

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Yeah, I'm not really that optimistic about this project either to be honest. The fact that Chris Nolan has basically handed it off to Snyder and it's now his film now also disappoints me, since I thought Nolan would have been just a wee bit more involved, but I guess not as he's focusing on The Dark Knight Rises (and admittedly, as he should).

I'm just not a really big fan of Zack Snyder and his directorial sensibilities, so even though I'm somewhat hopeful because of Goyer's script and Nolan's initial involvement as a producer, my optimism is waning fast.

I think the only reason to hold out any hope is that Nolan DID choose him as the director. Perhaps the particular story and tone they're going for is actually a good fit for Snyder's sensiblities... somehow.