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Star Trek Movies I-X Discuss the first ten big screen outings in this forum!

View Poll Results: Did Spock and Savvik have sex?
Yes, of course they did 105 64.81%
They very well might have done 38 23.46%
Don't know one way or the other 12 7.41%
Unlikely that they did 3 1.85%
No of course not 4 2.47%
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Old November 27 2010, 07:12 PM   #16
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Re: Did Spock have sex with Savvik in Star Trek 3?

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If I remember the novelization correctly, Saavik was getting lucky more than Kirk in II-IV -- she not only helped Spock through pon-far, she was banging David and, before that, Peter Preston.
What the... I mean, for Spock it was a matter of survival, and David Marcus is a hunk AND a Kirk, so I understand those two guys, but Peter frickin' Preston? That kid's a shrimp! (okay, so he was shot by ship-mounted phasers and still lived for a bit, but still)

The funny thing is, at least according to Memory-Alpha, the novelization for TWOK has Preston listed as 14. A little too young for some Saavik-lovin, I think.
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Old November 27 2010, 07:31 PM   #17
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Re: Did Spock have sex with Savvik in Star Trek 3?

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I think Saavik simply helped him center his chi.
If you mean she helped him center his chi in her who~who, then yes, you are correct sir.
I can't remember the last time someone centred my chi
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Old November 27 2010, 09:06 PM   #18
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Re: Did Spock have sex with Savvik in Star Trek 3?

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The funny thing is, at least according to Memory-Alpha, the novelization for TWOK has Preston listed as 14. A little too young for some Saavik-lovin, I think.
Saavik was helping him with his studies (mathematics, IIRC), and they'd become friends. I don't recall the novel suggesting they'd become more intimate than that.

The novel does have David and Saavik as sexual partners during ST II, which really complicates matters for the events unfolding in ST III. We learned in "Amok Time" that a Vulcan hitting pon farr for the first time must "mate or die".
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Old November 27 2010, 09:23 PM   #19
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We learned in "Amok Time" that a Vulcan hitting pon farr for the first time must "mate or die".
That really confuses the issue. Was Spock in Amok Time a late bloomer? Because he's in his mid-thirties. Spock in The Search for Spock looks like he's in his early-twenties when going through pon-farr

It's supposedly the same character... so why the change?
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Old November 27 2010, 10:13 PM   #20
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It's supposedly the same character... so why the change?
Original Spock had been taught the appropriate Vulcan mental disciplines and he temporarily suppressed his urges every seven years after puberty. He says in "Amok Time" that he thought he'd evaded the whole issue, but of course, he'd only delayed it.
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Old November 27 2010, 10:17 PM   #21
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The funny thing is, at least according to Memory-Alpha, the novelization for TWOK has Preston listed as 14. A little too young for some Saavik-lovin, I think.
Saavik was helping him with his studies (mathematics, IIRC), and they'd become friends. I don't recall the novel suggesting they'd become more intimate than that.
Oh, thanks for the clarification!
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Old November 27 2010, 10:35 PM   #22
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If I remember the novelization correctly, Saavik was getting lucky more than Kirk in II-IV -- she not only helped Spock through pon-far, she was banging David and, before that, Peter Preston.

Which actually raises an interesting possibility -- if Saavik was pregnant in IV, maybe it wasn't Spock's kid. Maybe Kirk has a quarter-Romulan grandchild.
So are STD's logical?
I guess they used a rubber glove.
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Old November 27 2010, 11:02 PM   #23
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I guess they used a rubber glove.
He has five penises. His condoms always fit him like a glove.
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Old November 28 2010, 12:17 AM   #24
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I guess they used a rubber glove.
He has five penises. His condoms always fit him like a glove.
I meant that he'd put it on his hand when.... oh nevermind
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Old November 28 2010, 01:06 AM   #25
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Re: Did Spock have sex with Savvik in Star Trek 3?

Don't forget, they got married later on. At least according to the novels.
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Old November 28 2010, 01:35 AM   #26
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Don't forget, they got married later on. At least according to the novels.
That was a horrible, horrible thing. Especially after reading The Pandora Principle, or the very similar DC comics' Saavik origin story.
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Old November 28 2010, 02:01 AM   #27
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I think the filmakers smartly left this open to interpretation, but playing it more on the safe side.

My interpretation is that they did not have sex. There just wasn't any real indication of that. I think Saavik simply helped him center his chi. (Is that what the kids are calling it these days?)
Wisely is right because that kid was a minor....and Robin Curtis...well...wasn't. I don't like those implications so...I'd rather believe his chi was focused (That's what she said)
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Old November 28 2010, 02:35 AM   #28
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Re: Did Spock have sex with Savvik in Star Trek 3?

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If I remember the novelization correctly, Saavik was getting lucky more than Kirk in II-IV -- she not only helped Spock through pon-far, she was banging David and, before that, Peter Preston..
Saavik didn't do it with Preston. He had a crush on her, but it never went anywhere - she didn't return it, although she did befriend him after Spock explained to her what a crush was.

Saavik and David were indeed having it off though.

And Spock looked to be at least 17 when he and Saavik were into it...
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Old November 28 2010, 03:16 AM   #29
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That was a horrible, horrible thing. Especially after reading The Pandora Principle, or the very similar DC comics' Saavik origin story.
About 80 years after being teacher and pupil, and both without romantic partners in all that time in between, they decided it was... logical to become partners rather than remain alone.

I know some human teachers and students who impatiently waited about five years till they thought that society might accept their decision.
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Old November 30 2010, 05:08 AM   #30
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So are STD's logical?
The VDs of the many outweigh the VDs of the few.
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