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Old November 20 2010, 12:25 AM   #316
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Why people want to pigeon hole what sci-fi is is beyond me. Who cares?
Because words have meanings.
Oh, bullshit, you pull this crap too often. Stop trying to use YOUR tastes to decide what is and what isn't science fiction. It's very tiring. If it has speculative fiction in it then it's sci-fi according to most people's definition and since art isn't an exact science you just have to go with the majority when it comes to "genres."
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Old November 20 2010, 12:39 AM   #317
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Why people want to pigeon hole what sci-fi is is beyond me. Who cares?
Because words have meanings.
Oh, bullshit, you pull this crap too often. Stop trying to use YOUR tastes to decide what is and what isn't science fiction. It's very tiring. If it has speculative fiction in it then it's sci-fi according to most people's definition and since art isn't an exact science you just have to go with the majority when it comes to "genres."
No, I don't. If the majority is wrong, then they're wrong. I'm not going to lower my standards just to fit in. This is why words exist: To communicate information. If I'm in the mood for a cheeseburger, I don't ask for a cucumber sandwich; and when I'm in the mood for Asimov, I don't ask for Lovecraft. They are different, and there are different words to describe them.
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Old November 20 2010, 12:42 AM   #318
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No, I don't. If the majority is wrong, then they're wrong. I'm not going to lower my standards just to fit in. This is why words exist: To communicate information. If I'm in the mood for a cheeseburger, I don't ask for a cucumber sandwich; and when I'm in the mood for Asimov, I don't ask for Lovecraft. They are different, and there are different words to describe them.
Then why don't you tell us what sci-fi is and isn't?
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Old November 20 2010, 01:14 AM   #319
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No, that's not the point. Quality is independent of genre.
Once again, the point goes zooming right over your head. The amount of watchable genre shows - or any shows - on TV is so miniscule that I'll gladly watch a sci fi show that you can call fantasy or horror or a rutabaga. Quibbles about terminology may be briefly amusing but in the end, of no importance at all.
Well, okay, the vast majority then.
Right, so I guess you are telepathic then. You don't have a flippin' clue how many viewers categorize the show in this or that way, or any way. What a load of unadulterated baloney!
To the mundanes, it's all sci fi in that sense
The mundanes = the vast majority of viewers. So most viewers do think of a zombie show as "sci fi." You just invalidated your own argument!

No, of course it's a cop show, with sci fi trappings (and too subtle for most people to notice). My point was that it's more sci fi than Walking Dead is.
Not according to TV Guide, and TV Guide knows all!
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Old November 20 2010, 02:20 AM   #320
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A good show is a good show. I don't care about the terminology.
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Old November 20 2010, 11:03 AM   #321
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Then why don't you tell us what sci-fi is and isn't?
Science Fiction is when a story explores the effects of science or extrapolated science (or applied science, i.e. technology) on people or society. Informally, "sci fi" can refer to anything with the trappings of Science Fiction, such Space Opera or Steampunk.

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Once again, the point goes zooming right over your head. The amount of watchable genre shows - or any shows - on TV is so miniscule that I'll gladly watch a sci fi show that you can call fantasy or horror or a rutabaga. Quibbles about terminology may be briefly amusing but in the end, of no importance at all.
I guess I am missing the point. Are you saying you watch Walking Dead because there's nothing else on that you like? Or that TV is so bad that it makes you lose your grasp of English? I don't see how using accurate terminology is quibbling-- if you like something, why be afraid to call it what it is?

Right, so I guess you are telepathic then. You don't have a flippin' clue how many viewers categorize the show in this or that way, or any way. What a load of unadulterated baloney!
No, I'm not telepathic and it's not baloney. I just have a basic grasp of how people think. We're not talking about rocket science here-- or even rocket science fiction.

The mundanes = the vast majority of viewers. So most viewers do think of a zombie show as "sci fi." You just invalidated your own argument!
Hardly, unless you think that voting is involved somehow. If most people think that Humans and Dinosaurs co-existed (probably because they've seen that old "Science Fiction" show The Flintstones ), they're still wrong.

Not according to TV Guide, and TV Guide knows all!
TV Guide is hilarious. They did a special magazine about Star Trek a few years ago, and their descriptions in the episode guide cracked me up. Their view of "Requiem For Methuselah" was something along the lines of, "The costumes were nice, but they should have ditched the sub-plot about the android."
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Old November 21 2010, 12:22 AM   #322
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That reminds me of the description that a local paper ran in their programming guide (back when they had those). "The crew encounters an exact duplicate of the Enterprise floating in space." The episode? "The Tholian Web".

I mean, yeah, technically the description is correct, but it totally misses what the episode is about.
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Old November 21 2010, 11:17 AM   #323
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Yeah, exactly. If that was the sub-plot, I can't imagine what they thought the main plot was.
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A co-worker's been encouraging me to watch this; I just found out today from him that Bear McCreary does the music, so my interest has pretty much tripled. I was going to check out the thread to see what people have been saying, but having skipped to the last page, I have to ask: is this another thread that's been hijacked by RJ being insufferable again?
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Old November 21 2010, 03:47 PM   #325
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^ If it helps in making your decision, the majority consensus has been "very good" to "great" so far, with of course one or two opinions to the contrary.
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Old November 21 2010, 06:31 PM   #326
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A co-worker's been encouraging me to watch this; I just found out today from him that Bear McCreary does the music, so my interest has pretty much tripled. I was going to check out the thread to see what people have been saying, but having skipped to the last page, I have to ask: is this another thread that's been hijacked by RJ being insufferable again?
There is a side conversation about "what is SF" going on, but the posts are easy to recognize and avoid.
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Old November 21 2010, 10:49 PM   #327
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A co-worker's been encouraging me to watch this; I just found out today from him that Bear McCreary does the music, so my interest has pretty much tripled. I was going to check out the thread to see what people have been saying, but having skipped to the last page, I have to ask: is this another thread that's been hijacked by RJ being insufferable again?
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Old November 21 2010, 11:50 PM   #328
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I love listening to Andrew Lincoln's real accent in the behind the scenes segment on AMC.com. I finally realized where I'd seen him before, in the movie "Love Actually."
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Old November 22 2010, 04:04 AM   #329
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I gotta sudden hankering to do some fishing...
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Old November 22 2010, 04:04 AM   #330
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Why do they expect there to be fish and frogs in a quarry lake?
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