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Old November 16 2010, 06:30 AM   #61
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Re: The Incredible Hulk heading back to television

I think there was plenty of morality in "The Incredible Hulk" it was part of the conflict that Banner had concerning his inevitable decision to become the Hulk again to stop the Abomination. I would love a live action "Planet Hulk" movie or television series, I really enjoyed the animated movie and agree that it is a good example of how both halves can have some semblance of harmony with each other.
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Old November 16 2010, 06:48 AM   #62
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I think there was plenty of morality in "The Incredible Hulk" it was part of the conflict that Banner had concerning his inevitable decision to become the Hulk again to stop the Abomination. I would love a live action "Planet Hulk" movie or television series, I really enjoyed the animated movie and agree that it is a good example of how both halves can have some semblance of harmony with each other.
Yes, but that was Banner. I am referring to the compassion the actual Hulk has for people, not just Betty as we saw in the Ang Lee film.
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Old November 16 2010, 10:36 AM   #63
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Not comfortable with Eick's involvement; his Bionic Woman was pretty bad, and I tend to think he was responsible for the facets of BSG I wasn't fond of. But del Toro's involvement is intriguing.

I read an interesting comment about Hulk adaptations on io9 today:

Here's the thing about Bruce Banner: He becomes a hero before he becomes the Hulk. In the comics, he's a scientist testing a horribly destructive bomb, and he sees a young kid sneaking out onto the testing range. So he rushes out and pushes the kid out of harm's way, taking the full blast himself. That moment of self-sacrifice defines him, and even though the Hulk always seems like a totally self-centered force of id and destruction, you know that he'll always wind up putting others first when the chips are down. Because the Hulk was born in a moment of self-sacrifice, and he's a weird mixture of rage and softness. (The Hulk's compassion and inability to understand cruelty is a major feature in a lot of the comics.) For some reason, people adapting the Hulk's origin always dispense with the bomb and the kid, Rick Jones, who's the most interesting supporting character in many of the comics.
I don't have a strong opinion on the question myself, but it's an interesting insight, and the author does have a point: It's good for the character to have a defining act of heroism like that. And the Rick Jones character has never been adapted to live action, so it'd bring a different dynamic to the show if he were included.
Yeah, I think I Posted about this earlier in the Thread. The "no good deed goes unpunished" aspect of the Hulk's genesis has been completely ignored-- I don't know if they even remember it in the comics anymore-- but to me it's a vital aspect of the character.
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Old November 16 2010, 03:22 PM   #64
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Hulk showed some restraint in killing Abomination at the end "The Incredible Hulk" and remember that this is still a raw Hulk, who's not been active very long and Banner has not been content in letting him exist. That is the difference.
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Old November 16 2010, 07:34 PM   #65
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I like the fact that this Hulk will be a mixture of CGI, puppetry and animatronics. Neither of the CGI movie Hulks were entirely successful for me and a totally CGI one on a tv budget would probably also not have worked. I think this is the way to go.

Oh, and Guillermo Del Toro and Eick, what's not to like?
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Old November 16 2010, 07:47 PM   #66
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I dunno... I think the best approach would be something like Mr. Hyde in The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen -- a live actor in prosthetics, with greenscreen or perspective tricks used to make him look inhumanly large. I'd like to see a Hulk that can function as a character, a being with personality and emotion, while still being affordable on a TV budget. A live actor is the best way to achieve both those things.

After all, what made Lou Ferrigno effective as the Hulk wasn't just his musculature, but his personality. He made the Hulk a sympathetic figure, a sensitive innocent. But what I think a new Hulk series would need is something live-action Hulk adaptations have lacked in the past: a sentient, verbal Hulk, at least to the childlike extent usually portrayed in the comics. That's something else that would be harder to do effectively with CGI or animatronics. (I like the current Avengers cartoon's approach of giving the Hulk a characterization like he had in the earliest comics or much of the Peter David era: fully intelligent and capable of normal speech, but surly and ill-tempered. It's a nice change of pace.)
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Old November 16 2010, 07:58 PM   #67
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^ Well, the exact method they'll portray him remains unknown (to me anyway) but my basic point is that I think it's a good thing that they're departing from the methods used in the last two movies. Agreed about Ferrigno.

I guess the odds are good that Doug Jones and Ron Perlman will be involved in this series ...
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Old November 16 2010, 08:09 PM   #68
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Hmm. Ron Perlman as the Leader? That could work. Or maybe as Gen. Ross?
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Old November 16 2010, 08:14 PM   #69
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^My thoughts exactly, both counts!
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Old November 16 2010, 08:21 PM   #70
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The casting on this is going to be definitely interesting to follow. Marvel TV is also in the midst of developing three other live action shows, "Cloak and Dagger" is reportedly one of them, the other two aren't known at this time. I suspect we'll be getting a few major announcements over the next couple of months from them. Jeph is busy
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Old November 16 2010, 10:45 PM   #71
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Matthew Bomer, Jim Caviezel, John Hamm or Zachary Levi for Hulk... oh, wait...
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LOL.
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Old November 17 2010, 12:57 AM   #73
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Hmm, I saw a mention elsewhere that del Toro's plans for the Hulk design do reportedly include prosthetics. Now, maybe that just means prosthetics on the Banner actor for the first stage of the transformation, but hopefully it means an actor as the Hulk.
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Old November 17 2010, 01:38 AM   #74
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^ Well, the exact method they'll portray him remains unknown (to me anyway) but my basic point is that I think it's a good thing that they're departing from the methods used in the last two movies. Agreed about Ferrigno.

I guess the odds are good that Doug Jones and Ron Perlman will be involved in this series ...
Perlman is already on a TV show in a lead role.
He's doing "Sons of Anarchy" over on FX.
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Old November 17 2010, 02:07 AM   #75
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As was mentioned before they're using a multitude of techniques to depict the Hulk, an actor will probably be used as well to combine the techniques.
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