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Old November 16 2010, 04:04 AM   #16
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It's the same thing in Klingonese.
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Old November 16 2010, 06:08 AM   #17
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Sorry, I was being testy. It's just that it annoys me when people create an entire topic to bitch about something that's already been bitched about ad nauseum, as if they think they're the first ones to actually ever bring it up. My bad.
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Old November 16 2010, 07:12 AM   #18
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Sorry, I was being testy. It's just that it annoys me when people create an entire topic to bitch about something that's already been bitched about ad nauseum, as if they think they're the first ones to actually ever bring it up. My bad.
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Old November 16 2010, 08:11 AM   #19
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I admit to being confused as to why a starship engine room from the year 2258 would need WATER tanks...
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Old November 16 2010, 09:43 AM   #20
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I admit to being confused as to why a starship engine room from the year 2258 would need WATER tanks...
I just thought it was part of the reactor coolant system myself (maybe it's still a few years before plasma coolant is used).

Personally, I didn't mind the engineering set--although I do think there should have been a central control room for Scotty to work in rather than have him running all over the place. But now that I think about it, there did seem to be more a "cohesive look" between the Kelvin's bridge and its lower levels. On the Enterprise, not so much, but that may have been a lighting issue perhaps (maybe the engine room needed more lens-flare)...
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Old November 16 2010, 01:57 PM   #21
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Given that some nuclear reactors are "cooled" with Natrium (liquid metal, 100° C hot)...
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Old November 16 2010, 03:34 PM   #22
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Apparently those early warp engines are a totally different kind of beast (I was thinking the water could be used in combination with something else as a coolant)...

Then again, maybe the water is used for something totally different--such as if environmental engineering (specifically the waste water treatment system) is located there too.
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Old November 16 2010, 03:51 PM   #23
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"There, too"? One consequence of the use of the location and the resultant ship rescaling is that the ship could have whole suburbs of machinery dedicated to different things. Kirk and Scott could have beamed to a water treatment plant that was in no way related or connected to warp engineering...

On the issue of dirt roads, I'd actually consider those a nice scifi idea. It's the future, folks. Steel plates don't arrive on eighteen-wheelers any more... If they aren't transported in, they're probably flown in.

That said, I'd have liked a bit more camouflage on some of the locations used. OTOH, there was lots and lots of camouflage on the CGI sets to make them blend with the physical locations, and the end result was that the interior of the Enterprise IMHO had a very consistent feel. Save for the bridge, which probably ought to have been shot "on location" somehow, too...

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Old November 16 2010, 04:00 PM   #24
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The pipes are labelled "INERT REACTANT". Apparently that's not the oxymoron it appears to be.

On the other hand, Spock called the area "water turbine section 3"

I should point put that there was a very similar looking clear vertical pipe in the middle of Scotty's TAS engine room. Also, the TOS engineering room was all pipes and tanks, albeit on a much smaller scale.

Why the STXI pipe led to a huge blender, I don't know - but I LOL'd when I saw it (heck, Kirk's face was more than ).

I'm just glad they didn't spend a single second of the movie in those damn crawlways that TNG/DS9/VOY keep going back to
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Old November 16 2010, 04:03 PM   #25
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The pipes are labelled "INERT REACTANT". Apparently that's not the oxymoron it appears to be.
Sounds exactly like something you'd find in a water purification installation...

(Supposedly, it becomes less inert when it enters the purification process. But it's very nice that it stays inert the rest of the time.)

I'm just glad they didn't spend a single second of the movie in those damn crawlways thay TNG/DS9/VOY keep going back to
The fact that one can't easily find those things on shooting locations should probably tell the film crews something. Although it's probably more an issue of only set-built crawlways being filmable, whereas some real ones exist as well but cannot accommodate a camera.

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Old November 16 2010, 04:06 PM   #26
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"There, too"?
I didn't stutter. I was responding to a question of why would there be water tanks in the engine room.

Fact is, we don't know how the ship is laid out or where what is where. Kirk and Scotty could have beamed into engineering--which could encompass more than just the warp engines--or they could have beamed into environmental engineering, or even inside one of the nacelles, for all we know.

Flip a coin, though, I say it was somewhere in engineering to cover the bases...
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Old November 16 2010, 04:09 PM   #27
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I didn't stutter. I was responding to a question of why would there be water tanks in the engine room.
Yeah, I know. And I hoped to emphasize the (faulty) assumption in the original question that this was "the" engine room. Just as in TOS, and just like you imply, "engineering" would be a vast entity with lots of "somewheres" within it. Not just a single location with a single function, or with multiple functions for that matter.

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Old November 16 2010, 05:33 PM   #28
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I admit to being confused as to why a starship engine room from the year 2258 would need WATER tanks...
Those are not water tanks. The brewery is a necessary function for producing alcohol. Alcohol fuels the ship and everyone who has used a Bunsen burner knows the color of alcohol burning is BLUE, hence the new BLUE WARP NACELLES. See, there really was a plan!

To the OP, don't let anyone scare you away. Post what you wish and someone will always respond... for better or worse.
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Old November 17 2010, 02:40 AM   #29
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The brewery is a necessary function for producing alcohol. Alcohol fuels the ship and everyone who has used a Bunsen burner knows the color of alcohol burning is BLUE, hence the new BLUE WARP NACELLES.
Ahhhh!!

Nice to see that BWN is still very much alive.
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Old November 20 2010, 09:32 PM   #30
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It's powered by steam. JJ saw the blooper reel of Justman shovelling coal into the engines on the TOS set.
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