A Brand New Day Has Passed...It's time For Peter to hit the Big Time!!

[Admiral_Young]

Okay, I still disagree with his view and as Captain Craig pointed out anyone else (including Marvel editorial) who has stated or argues that the last two years have been among the best Spider-Man stories. There's been some fun stuff but I'd hardly call them classics.

[Christopher]

Well, people are entitled to disagree on their opinions. I was just using Sims' comments to illustrate that there didn't have to be any correlation between how one feels about OMD and how one might feel about BND. As far as I'm concerned, they're two entirely different things. OMD was a horrible idea horribly executed, but every long-running series has its duds, and that doesn't automatically ruin what comes afterward. And although I was highly skeptical of BND at first, I've found it to be quite fresh and entertaining and essentially untainted by the awfulness of OMD.

[Admiral_Young]

All and good, as I've said I've enjoyed BND myself but the two are entertained and BND wouldn't happen without OMD.

[Christopher]

^I guess you mean "intertwined." Yes, of course BND builds on what came before it, just as any installment in an ongoing series does. But that doesn't make it equivalent in quality or worth to what came before it.

[DarKush]

I thought OMD was one of the stupidest ideas in comics history, however I've liked BND for the most part, though I was prepared to hate it. I do agree with Sims about it not just being a total nostalgia wank, there's an energy and fun to the stories, and some pretty decent-to-good artwork for most of the books. I've also liked how they've updated the classic villains while adding some intriguing new ones like Mr. Negative and Menace.

I think BT will continue the resurgence, but I wish they had gone with another look for the new Spider-Girl. I've grown to dislike those masks with the tops cut off, its so 90s. Plus, I could easily see a villain grabbing her long hair.

[Admiral_Young]

^ I have often wondered that with other long haired superheriones such as Spider-Woman or Julie Carpenter but that doesn't seem to happen to them.

[Turtletrekker]

Technobuilder wrote:

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I completely lost any interest I had in the storyline of ongoing Spider-Man comics after OMD/BND.

Not to be a broken record, but I just don't see what the point of it was...

Not judging the quality of BND, just saying I don't care anymore.

Exactly.

[Tulin]

Admiral_Young wrote:

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Big Time trailer...pretty well done and gives you a great tease of what is to come. Reveals that Peter and Carlie Cooper are dating which I quite like, although I was hoping he'd hook up with Norah Winters which I think is a better match for him. New suits (which the Spider Office has assured are actually temporarily and won't be around and plot specific) a new Hobgoblin and a new job! I will admit that I'm actually excited about what they've got planned for Pete. Hopefully they don't do anything to screw things up or piss fans off. I like Slott's work. I also like the fact that they are using one writer again.


http://www.newsarama.com/common/medi....php?aid=39145

I have NO idea what you're talking about.

[DarKush]

Admiral_Young wrote:

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^ I have often wondered that with other long haired superheriones such as Spider-Woman or Julie Carpenter but that doesn't seem to happen to them.

True. Good point. As a matter of fact I can't recall ever reading where it was used against a long-haired hero, female or male.

[Mike Farley]

They should have just chucked Mary Jane off a bridge.

Spider-Man has been going downhill ever since Ditko left.

[Admiral_Young]

Again the Spider-Office didn't want any kind of negative connotations to surround their characters. Thus no death and no divorce, just a deal with the devil.

[Forbin]

Admiral_Young wrote:

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Again the Spider-Office didn't want any kind of negative connotations to surround their characters. Thus no death and no divorce, just a deal with the devil.

[Admiral_Young]

Doesn't that logic just make you wanna scratch your head and laugh? @ Tulin, you wouldn't get what I was talking about unless you read Amazing Spider-Man.

[FPAlpha]

OMD just killed Spiderman for good.. there are pockets of resistance but sales figures don't lie.

And still JoeQ maintains his position and let's his ego and his drive to be a bigger and better editor than Stan Lee rule creative decisions by wanting to leave his mark on the comics world. It resulted in OMD...

[Christopher]

FPAlpha wrote:

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OMD just killed Spiderman for good.. there are pockets of resistance but sales figures don't lie.

Figures neither lie nor tell the truth. Which is why it's so easy for people to lie by twisting out-of-context figures to fit their preconceptions.

Spider-Man has been around for nearly 50 years, and its sales have gone up and down plenty of times. And there have been worse missteps in its past than OMD -- the Clone Saga, the Byrne reboot. It's survived those.