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Old November 3 2010, 09:33 AM   #136
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True, but there was a generator at the police station. I would have at least tried the Internet.
I suppose it wouldn't hurt to try but somehow I doubt the internet relays and cell towers would be working. Maybe if they could find a sat phone (where the hell would you find those?) they could try calling military or other states
Of course they wouldn't be working, but the idea is to show that stuff isn't working. All he did was try one landline; he didn't try a cell phone, didn't get static from a broadcast or Satellite radio, didn't watch snow on a TV, didn't get endless 'page not found' messages on the Web. All of these things would contribute to the growing knowledge that whatever has happened is widespread.

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You do know the internet is more than just that box on your desk? If the phones don't work and the power in general is out, no way in hell is the internet going to be working.
No, I had no idea. I doubt if the police station uses dial up. They either have cable or a satellite dish, which are independent of the phones.
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Old November 3 2010, 12:15 PM   #137
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The idea of a small island that had a town on it could be ideal. Just kill off and dispose of all zomibes and dead bodies then the island will be zomibe safe. Have strict protocols that account for everyone in the population every couple days or so, that way if someone dies they can be quickly disposed of. An island where you can farm and has a fresh water supply would be ideal. If you really needed something you can take an armed team to the mainland to get some supplies and everyone would have to checked for bites before they came back.
Max Brooks' excellent "World War Z" is set looking back ten years after mankind "won" the war on the zombie hordes and has quite a few ideas on what to do globally to adapt to a world filled with the undead:


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Old November 3 2010, 01:04 PM   #138
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Take a guess who Max Brooks' father is.
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Old November 3 2010, 01:08 PM   #139
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Take a guess who Martin Freeman's father is.....



Errrr.......I got nothin'.
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Old November 3 2010, 02:45 PM   #140
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You do know the internet is more than just that box on your desk? If the phones don't work and the power in general is out, no way in hell is the internet going to be working.
No, I had no idea. I doubt if the police station uses dial up. They either have cable or a satellite dish, which are independent of the phones.
But the cable and satellite companies would still need to be up and running. Even if some of the employees survived the Zombie Apocalypse, I doubt they would stay at work just to make sure the internet is running.
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Old November 3 2010, 02:59 PM   #141
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The satellite thing makes sense though because I don't know that the characters would know this isn't a regional phonemena somehow. Or maybe Europe wasn't hit or whatever. Unlikely but worth a shot of desperation.
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Old November 3 2010, 03:03 PM   #142
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Perhaps. Just because we didn't see it doesn't mean it didn't happen.
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Old November 3 2010, 06:16 PM   #143
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Old November 3 2010, 06:27 PM   #144
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True, but there was a generator at the police station. I would have at least tried the Internet.
I suppose it wouldn't hurt to try but somehow I doubt the internet relays and cell towers would be working. Maybe if they could find a sat phone (where the hell would you find those?) they could try calling military or other states
Of course they wouldn't be working, but the idea is to show that stuff isn't working. All he did was try one landline; he didn't try a cell phone, didn't get static from a broadcast or Satellite radio, didn't watch snow on a TV, didn't get endless 'page not found' messages on the Web. All of these things would contribute to the growing knowledge that whatever has happened is widespread.

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You do know the internet is more than just that box on your desk? If the phones don't work and the power in general is out, no way in hell is the internet going to be working.
No, I had no idea. I doubt if the police station uses dial up. They either have cable or a satellite dish, which are independent of the phones.
Phone communications these days run over IP just like internet data. If the phones are down, most likely internet is down as well. It's all 1's and 0's.
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Old November 3 2010, 11:02 PM   #145
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If you wake up to a Zombie Apocalypse, your primary concerns are going to be finding help and getting information. You're not going to just try one random internal phone in a hospital and give up. You're going to look for other phones, for cell phones, for Blackberries, you're going to turn on TVs and radios, you're going to look for cars with XM receivers, you're going to try the Internet at the hospital, at home, at the Police Station. Like Mr. Adventure says, you'd have no idea how widespread the phenomenon is. And most people, rather than assuming that nothing works, would continue to try these things over and over no matter how many times they fail to work. It would have been to the story's advantage to show this, demonstrating vividly how serious the situation is, as well as the character's growing fear and frustration. As it is, I don't remember there being any evidence that this world even has Internet or cell phones or XM.
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Old November 3 2010, 11:39 PM   #146
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If you wake up to a Zombie Apocalypse, your primary concerns are going to be finding help and getting information. You're not going to just try one random internal phone in a hospital and give up. You're going to look for other phones, for cell phones, for Blackberries, you're going to turn on TVs and radios, you're going to look for cars with XM receivers, you're going to try the Internet at the hospital, at home, at the Police Station. Like Mr. Adventure says, you'd have no idea how widespread the phenomenon is. And most people, rather than assuming that nothing works, would continue to try these things over and over no matter how many times they fail to work. It would have been to the story's advantage to show this, demonstrating vividly how serious the situation is, as well as the character's growing fear and frustration. As it is, I don't remember there being any evidence that this world even has Internet or cell phones or XM.

Because watching a person try one dead phone or one dead computer after another makes for RIVETING viewing, right?

I'm happy they didn't dwell on this aspect. Everyone has been familiar with the basic initial play-out of a zombie-apocalypse since "Night of the Living Dead" in 1968. We've SEEN the origin of the event story--SEVERAL times in SEVERAL movies. Anyone familiar enough with the concept of zombies to bother tuning in has likely seen at LEAST one of these. Personally, I'm glad it was NOT rehashed here and we're able to get on to traveling some new ground.
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Old November 4 2010, 12:24 AM   #147
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If you wake up to a Zombie Apocalypse, your primary concerns are going to be finding help and getting information. You're not going to just try one random internal phone in a hospital and give up. You're going to look for other phones, for cell phones, for Blackberries, you're going to turn on TVs and radios, you're going to look for cars with XM receivers, you're going to try the Internet at the hospital, at home, at the Police Station. Like Mr. Adventure says, you'd have no idea how widespread the phenomenon is. And most people, rather than assuming that nothing works, would continue to try these things over and over no matter how many times they fail to work. It would have been to the story's advantage to show this, demonstrating vividly how serious the situation is, as well as the character's growing fear and frustration. As it is, I don't remember there being any evidence that this world even has Internet or cell phones or XM.
Yes, if I were to actually wake up during a situation like this, I would try to contact people. How do we know he didn't? Just because we didn't see it happen doesn't mean it didn't happen. There are things in storytelling that you just don't need to elaborate on.
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Old November 4 2010, 12:31 AM   #148
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If you wake up to a Zombie Apocalypse, your primary concerns are going to be finding help and getting information. You're not going to just try one random internal phone in a hospital and give up. You're going to look for other phones, for cell phones, for Blackberries, you're going to turn on TVs and radios, you're going to look for cars with XM receivers, you're going to try the Internet at the hospital, at home, at the Police Station. Like Mr. Adventure says, you'd have no idea how widespread the phenomenon is. And most people, rather than assuming that nothing works, would continue to try these things over and over no matter how many times they fail to work. It would have been to the story's advantage to show this, demonstrating vividly how serious the situation is, as well as the character's growing fear and frustration. As it is, I don't remember there being any evidence that this world even has Internet or cell phones or XM.
There seemed to be a fair amount of time compression in the scenes between him waking up and him leaving the hospital; he was a lot surer on his feet when he found the exit. He may have tried numerous computers and radios and TVs and cell phones, I don't think the viewer needs to be shown all of that. As for the storytelling, I think it was more effective how it was done, leaving the audience in the dark until the situation could be dramatically related first-hand by the survivor. Those retelling scenes were some of the best, IMO.

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I'm very curious to find out how you end a story like this. Other than the usual 'They get overrun and everyone becomes a zombie. The end.'
That would probably be true if the only way to create a zombie was to have someone infected by an existing zombie. But it is also established in the comics that


Currently, on average 146,357 people die each day. Therefore, it would appear that every day would bring at least a few tens of thousand new zombies.
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I'm very curious to find out how you end a story like this. Other than the usual 'They get overrun and everyone becomes a zombie. The end.'
That would probably be true if the only way to create a zombie was to have someone infected by an existing zombie. But it is also established in the comics that


Currently, on average 146,357 people die each day. Therefore, it would appear that every day would bring at least a few tens of thousand new zombies.
True. But...

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