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If you were creating a TOS Prequel, how would you do it?
Think about it from the point of view of someone trying to design a TV series. Remember, if you use fan-based designs (such as the Starfleet Museum, the Franz Joseph tech manuuals, etc.), you will using someone else's intellectual property. All you have to start from is TOS, and any elements from the later series which could logically have existed in a prequel to those series. What known aliens could be included? Would you have any alien crew members? How would you make the technology look more "primitive" than the NCC-1701? Would transporters and deflectors exist? What kind of weaponry would you include? What themes would you like to explore in such a series? What are some of the stories would you be able to tell (how the Prime Directive came about? Who did humans first come in contact with?) These are just some questions and ideas to get the job rolling. |
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Location: Regina, SK, Canada
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Re: If you were creating a TOS Prequel, how would you do it?
Meanwhile, the Solar System colonies would've been better treated than the extrasolar ones due to their proximity to Earth and begin demanding somewhat better governing conditions due to being spoiled by Earth's better treatment. The Vulcans would actually be at war with the Andorians, which would explain the strained relations with Earth and their desire to keep them from further exploration since they either don't want the Andorians to gain a new ally or to further divert resources to guarding Earth from attack. The weaponry would all be fusion powered, with a continuity nod being that future folks would call it "atomic" as an outdated misnomer. They'd use fusion-powered lasers and plutonium torpedoes. No shields, but point defense weapons to shoot down missiles and extra thick hulls to try and survive laser beams (missiles being the stronger weapon). No transporters, but shuttles. I'll think of more later. |
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Re: If you were creating a TOS Prequel, how would you do it?
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Re: If you were creating a TOS Prequel, how would you do it?
Sensibilities and technology have changed too much since the late sixties to create a prequel that could fit in with it. And I say this as a die hard Star Trek: The Original Series fan. It has been very clear that a hard reboot was needed as early as 2001.
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Re: If you were creating a TOS Prequel, how would you do it?
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Re: If you were creating a TOS Prequel, how would you do it?
This my reply in another thread called "Remake a Series." Since I was revising Enterprise, this is how I would have created a TOS prequel.
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Re: If you were creating a TOS Prequel, how would you do it?
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Location: Regina, SK, Canada
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Re: If you were creating a TOS Prequel, how would you do it?
So season one: Humans vs Humans Season Two-Onwards: Humans dealing with other humans in the background while the NX Ships explore beyond their space and encounter the Andorians, etc. |
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Re: If you were creating a TOS Prequel, how would you do it?
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Location: Regina, SK, Canada
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Re: If you were creating a TOS Prequel, how would you do it?
Regarding the look of the show, I might have 'cheated' and jazzed up the Enterprise and some of the tech to keep in line with modern sensibilities. |
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Location: In the Before Time - the Long, Long Ago
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Re: If you were creating a TOS Prequel, how would you do it?
I should make it clear up front that I'm heavily borrowing from TheGodBen's ideas he listed in his review thread some time back and altering them slightly - I have little orginiality, sue me. ![]() First, I would start with Humans as an established player on the interstellar scene, but a very, very minor (almost third rate) power - much like they were at the start of ENT Season Four. They would be on friendly terms with several neighboring races, mostly Vulcans and Andorians. I would hint at the fact that the Vulcans and Andorians were once bitter enemies, but wouldn't spend that much time developing the antagonism, because by this time they've overcome those past problems. I'd also hint that it was Humans who helped bring an end to hostilities, but again wouldn't focus on it - that's just background. I'd start the series with an episode very similiar to Babel One. The NX-01 is escorting high ranking Andorian government ministers to yet another peace conference with Vulcan. The NX-02 is travelling along with them, escorting high ranking Vulcan government ministers to the same conference, which is being held in neutral Tellarite terrority. Humans have never had contact with Tellarites, so this will be their First Contact. The Romulans, anxious to splinter any harmony in the local instellar area, even this little amount, send a small fleet to destroy the the Vulcan and Andorian conference. This results in a very tense engagement above Tellar Prime, as the Romulans thought the Earth ships were simply carrying the ministers, not escorting a mini-fleet of Vulcan and Andorian ships. On one side sits the Romulan fleet and on the other sits a fleet of Vulcan, Andorian and Tellarite vessels, along with Earth's two top ships. As TheGodBen said.... "It's a hugely tense moment, this could be the outbreak of the Romulan War, all it would take is one captain on either side to have an itchy trigger-finger. In the end the Romulans back down because it's not in their interests to go to" full scale "war" against a coalition like this yet, "but the humiliation they suffered that day strengthens their resolve to break this alliance and take revenge upon Earth" and her newfound allies. As for the Romulan War itself, I don't know how I'd handle it - other than it would have to be fought through drone-ships and intermediaries fighting for the Romulans. It would end however, in a massive, decisive battle on the outskirts of Earth's solar system about two or three years later. Dozens of drone ships and dozens of intermediary ships (Nausicaans and other mercenaries) head toward Earth in a last ditch attempt to destroy the alliance, which the Romulans believe is being held together by Humans. The Romulan forces are defeated in orbit of Pluto its moon Charon by a combined force of Human, Vulcan, Andorian and Tellarite vessels under the command of Jonathan Archer. I'd also have the NX-03, NX-04, and NX-05 take part in this battle. I'd would retcon this to be the Battle of Cheron, mentioned in TNG: The Defector, with military and government officials on Romulus mispronouncing the name of the moon over which they were defeated. I would also expand on Section 31, showing their origin. As TheGodBen said.... "The colony in the Alpha Centuri system is humanity's largest outside the Sol system with a population of 50 -100m people, and it is also vital to Earth and Starfleet" as well as the war effort against the Romulans "because dilithium has been discovered there, which will be vital for the construction of the warp 7 ships currently on the drawing-board. For some reason the colony wishes to secede from Earth's control, but Earth, and Starfleet in particular, cannot allow this because they need the dilithium which" is found in only miniscule quantities inside "the Sol system. Some Admirals in Starfleet meet in a dark office and hatch some sort of plan to prevent Centauran secession, and they bring it to the" United Earth Prime Minister "in a secret meeting, pointing out that Article 14, Section 31 of the Starfleet charter allows such an action to take place. The" Prime Minister "sanctions the action, which I feel is important because it gives Section 31 a certain legitimacy that they don't have if they're only a group of Starfleet Intelligence operatives gone rogue." "I'd even go further than all that and make sure that future story arcs" after the war "show that this small but growing group in Starfleet (Reed gets recruited at some point in the show) is instrumental in the formation of the Federation. Without Section 31 there wouldn't even be a Federation" (possibly bringing about regime change on Vulcan and putting T'Pau into power over a government that wants to end the alliance now that the immediate threat has been dealt with - a regime similar to the dissidents in TNG: Gambit) "and the galaxy would be in turmoil, which means that the Federation was founded on a lie. But is it better to live in a galaxy which is fractured or a galaxy which is united by such shady dealings? There's potential here for morality questions which go above and beyond what the Dominion War or Xindi arc was capable of because it is redefining our understanding of the entire Star Trek universe." As for how I would make it look more primitive while still pleasing modern sensiblities.... I think ENT did a very job of that as it was.
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Re: If you were creating a TOS Prequel, how would you do it?
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Re: If you were creating a TOS Prequel, how would you do it?
Need someone fresh in command, neither Kirk nor Archer, A more Steven Decatur like character, young - brash - headstrong - driven, exploring the space surrounding the infant Federation. He a veteran of the romulan war, this is his first command, given his youth he's likely only a Lt.Commander or Commander. His lack of "seasoning" result in his making the rare mistake. The ship will not look like a corridor from a Hilton hotel. Make it tight inside, world war two submarine tight, people squeeze past each other. (Might make it difficult to get cameras into). The crew has families, just not aboard with them. There are married couples. Dump the technobabble, the show isn't about tech, but what tech there is is consistant and make sense. No ubiquitous replicators. Story Ideas. Except for the walled off Romulans and the rarely seen Klingons, the new crew explores space with NO gigantic powers. Makes first contacts (without the benefit of the prime directive), fights against minor but strong enemies, encounters pirates and slavers, faces ethical dilemmas, we get to know his crew, this is a time of expansion for the Federation and also Earth. Story Ideas. No one uses the phrase "empire building' but that basically what it is. It's very 15th through 18th century Earth-like. Story Ideas. The Federation doesn't coalesce right away into a more perfect union, there are settling in problems.. This will be less politics and more civilian competition. Trade routes, resources, new colonies -- think of the new Federation as a on-going Journey to Babel. Story Ideas. Humanity wasn't held back for a century by the Vulcans (who are still arrogant assholes), Humans exploded out into the galaxy immediately after Cochrane's first flight. Earth has dozens of colonies, some of which are successful others not. Story Ideas. Throw a little zinger in sometimes, show that 22nd century Humans don't think exactly like us. Two centuries had to have changed us in some ways. Story Ideas. Our heroes lose sometime, sometimes badly. Story Ideas. There is a female Vulcan character, a young minor officer similar to T'Pol, no catsuit. The Vulcans are usually shown in robes of some kind, put Vulcan-girl in something like that. Think about Japanese Samurai/ Jedi Knight form of dress. But still give her freedom of movement. With the right material you'd still be able to see her boobs. Increase the strangeness factor on the Vulcans, Amok Time did a fair job of this. They live 250 years and the average family has 20 odd children, the reason they send them into the desert on the kas-wan is because they want most of them to die. Story Ideas Junk Star Trek's "modern secular liberalism." Sure a few of our characters will embrace this, but most of the characters are a diverse group in terms of their beliefs. economics, religion, politics, capitalism, socialism. The characters are very different from each other. Story Ideas There would be two secondary characters, one a person of profound faith, the other a adamant atheist. Make them best friends, while it would never be the main point in any episode, there would be a on going C story arc of the two of them arguing, joking, pushing their individual interpretation of the events in various episodes. Think of the friendly arguments between McCoy and Spock. Just something in the background. Not sure just how "military" the show would be. I think today's audience might accept a more traditional military organizational structure. Or just stay with the para-military Starfleet we've seen. There will be aliens of course, they will be alien through the actors portrayals, not elaborate make-up. During this particular show Earth/Federation/Starfleet will use filthy money. ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Location: Regina, SK, Canada
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Re: If you were creating a TOS Prequel, how would you do it?
Basically, they'd be these shady arrogant Empire that have built up their Empire on Slave Race Soldiers (Remans, Suliban) and demand tribute from smaller weaker worlds as Protection Money (but they do actually bother to protect them from space piracy, so while they are jerks and bullies they'll honor their agreement. Don't want to give away the goose that lays the golden eggs, right?) while using agents to perpetuate discord and negativity among those who would rival them. Humans, having been sheltered for as long as they have, were under their radar and as such might one day become the rival the Romulans feared (they're building up their numbers for war one day, but need to keep everyone else occupied until then). Also, the Romulans have extra-special "Vulcan" Emissaries they use only in rare cases. Like when they send some to Earth or wherever the Galactic Embassy is to inform them of where they can and can't go. |
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), I would have had a human doctor with some background in interspecies medical training, but not an alien superdoctor who can cure and fix anything. As a result, crew members and guest aliens will lose body parts, get seriously ill or injured and on occasion die! It's supposed to be DANGEROUS out there!
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