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Old June 3 2010, 11:58 PM   #16
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Re: funding for manned Mission to Mars [financial/political ONLY]

^^ Nah, it's a lawless frontier.

These plans sound great, but 2050? I'll be 90 freakin' years old. Faster, people, faster!
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Old June 4 2010, 04:16 AM   #17
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Triple "Eh?" And a bonus "Eh?" for the ironic Username.
*wanders off in search of back bacon and Molson beer*
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Old October 29 2010, 03:56 AM   #18
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Re: funding for manned Mission to Mars [financial/political ONLY]

"I think we'll be on the moons of Mars by 2030 or so," Worden said. "Larry [Page] asked me a couple weeks ago how much it would cost to send people one way to Mars and I told him $10 billion, and his response was, 'Can you get it down to 1 or 2 billion?' So now we're starting to get a little argument over the price."
"To Boldly Go: A One-Way Human Mission to Mars"
http://journalofcosmology.com/Mars108.html

This is part of a new idea:
First Steps in the Human Colonization of Mars
We envisage three stages: careful site selection using existing and future probes to gather relevant data, the establishment of an unmanned base with minimum resources necessary for human habitation, and the dispatch of the first astronauts.
October 21, 2010 -By Jamie Lendino
NASA, DARPA Planning One-Way Human Trip to Mars
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Old October 30 2010, 11:06 PM   #19
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Re: funding for manned Mission to Mars [financial/political ONLY]

Going to the Moon was all well and good, but I'm afraid that, Star Trek fantasies aside, I don't see much point in a manned mission to Mars until things calm down a bit more here on Earth.
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Old October 31 2010, 02:52 AM   #20
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Re: funding for manned Mission to Mars [financial/political ONLY]

^

Aye... until we can educate our kids, balance our budget, and get things under control here, not only do I see us not going to the Moon and Mars... I really don't want us to. Before you leave on any vacation, you make sure your house is secure.

In terms of political reality, we won't be going to either place anytime soon, unless China beats us to it, and some future President decides to pull a JFK.
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Old October 31 2010, 06:49 PM   #21
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^Ah, but sometimes you have to visit other houses to get new ideas for yours.
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Old October 31 2010, 08:29 PM   #22
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Re: funding for manned Mission to Mars [financial/political ONLY]

I like my house the way it looks now, thanks.
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Old October 31 2010, 10:48 PM   #23
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If we wait for the world to be perfect, we'll never do anything. Space exploration is a noble and inspiring endeavor that will improve the Human condition (and provide technological spin-offs as well). Stagnation will only make matters worse.
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Old October 31 2010, 11:15 PM   #24
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Re: funding for manned Mission to Mars [financial/political ONLY]

One of the boards members (forget which) had an interesting idea for a moon colony which a variation could apply here. The government tells the national corporations that which ever one establishes, maintain and gradually expands a mars colony will not have to pay any government business/corporate taxes of any kind for a half century.

Likely have a mars colony in fifteen years.

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Old November 1 2010, 04:01 AM   #25
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If we wait for the world to be perfect, we'll never do anything.
A fraction of the money spent on a single shuttle launch could save the lives of dozens of children from death by starvation. But I bet if you explained the choice to them, they'd say that they're "nothing", and favor the shuttle launch.

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Stagnation will only make matters worse.
Saving the Amazon and all its biodiversity, diminishing human suffering, fostering the spread of liberty... what stagnant and pointless tasks we face here below the ionosphere!


We made it to the moon, and that was awesome, because nothing like it had ever been accomplished. But while the moon may be only a moon and Mars a planet, they're both chunks of rock with not much else, and the latter would be incredibly expensive, difficult and dangerous to reach.

No, we're better off sticking at home for the foreseeable future, imho. You want to face a challenge that requires huge resources, political clout, ingenuity, and promises a chance to inspire and lift up the human race? How about figuring out the peaceful bringing of democracy to the Middle East, Africa and China?
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Old November 1 2010, 05:40 AM   #26
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If we wait for the world to be perfect, we'll never do anything. Space exploration is a noble and inspiring endeavor that will improve the Human condition (and provide technological spin-offs as well). Stagnation will only make matters worse.
I've got time to kill.
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Old November 1 2010, 10:20 AM   #27
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If we wait for the world to be perfect, we'll never do anything.
A fraction of the money spent on a single shuttle launch could save the lives of dozens of children from death by starvation. But I bet if you explained the choice to them, they'd say that they're "nothing", and favor the shuttle launch.
A fraction of the money spent on DVDs, potato chips and electric lights could save the lives of children and so on. Perhaps we should all eat porridge and sit quietly in the dark until the world is perfect.
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Old November 1 2010, 07:01 PM   #28
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A fraction of the money spent on a single shuttle launch could save the lives of dozens of children from death by starvation.
Of course, that assumes that any money not spent on launch will be spent on the cause you just mention.

If the children's parents work for either NASA or the aerospace industry that supports it, that child would be much less likely to be going hungry. Manned missions can also inspire children, motivate them to stay in school, seek higher education, pursue careers in engineering and sciences.
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Old November 1 2010, 07:12 PM   #29
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The Egyptians have already been there, haven't they? That is, if you believe the 'face' theory and that Dr Who episode.

I hope they bring me one of those rusty red bricks back. there can't be all that many of them.

No, I think they should go. I think we should have already have relatives there.
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NASA, DARPA Planning One-Way Human Trip to Mars
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NASA is planning no such thing.
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