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Old October 20 2010, 01:12 AM   #136
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Re: NCC-1701 USS Enterprise Deck by Deck - WIP

Problem solved





In this second shot you can see that I reworked the arrangement of the primary feeds.



And here's the primary exchange uplink to the secondary hull in
place. I made this very early on and it now must be changed; so,
that's the next step. The two outer lines off the nacelles are power feeds up between the engines and main engineering. There will be
junctions coming off this area later to feed the rest of the ship; but, for now, I have to fixup the core and the primary feed lines.
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Old October 20 2010, 01:14 AM   #137
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Havoc, if you were a girl, I'd marry you.

Since you're a dude, you'll have to settle for a fist pump and a manly-man shoulder thump.
LOL. I'll give you the Gene Simmons reply, "You're a handsome and powerful man."
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Old October 20 2010, 01:20 AM   #138
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makes me appreciate just how fragile the design really is.
This looks just like AUTOCAD.
It was definitely a tight squeeze getting those lines up and around the accessway. I'd intended to come in underneath but there is simply no
space. The feed lines are the exact same diamater going down the pylons as what is internal to the nacelles so that they'll mate up without major problems.
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Old October 20 2010, 02:34 AM   #139
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Re: NCC-1701 USS Enterprise Deck by Deck - WIP

havoc92 wrote: View Post
AJBryant wrote: View Post
Havoc, if you were a girl, I'd marry you.

Since you're a dude, you'll have to settle for a fist pump and a manly-man shoulder thump.
LOL. I'll give you the Gene Simmons reply, "You're a handsome and powerful man."
And I'll respond to that with Elvis: "Thank you, thank you very much."
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Old October 20 2010, 07:52 AM   #140
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havoc92 wrote: View Post
Saquist wrote: View Post
makes me appreciate just how fragile the design really is.
This looks just like AUTOCAD.
It was definitely a tight squeeze getting those lines up and around the accessway. I'd intended to come in underneath but there is simply no
space. The feed lines are the exact same diamater going down the pylons as what is internal to the nacelles so that they'll mate up without major problems.
I was thinking from your internal plans There might be reason to re-hardpoint the hull in accordance with these under hull details...like Air Locks in these unused and odd shaped spaces near the hull.

Fabricate primitve transporter emitters for the out side.
Emergency hatches
Small integrated flush vents
waste dump hatches
Utilities hatches could be added along the secondary hull spine for starbase hook up.
Even those famed but never seen retracting phasers.

This is just a great guide to what the exterior should look like instead of the completely smoothed surface. Infact this could actually dictate what the hull plating should look like as well...something we haven't seen on this design.
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Old October 20 2010, 10:04 PM   #141
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Re: NCC-1701 USS Enterprise Deck by Deck - WIP

Well, vacation ends today; but, work continues:


This is my rendition of the "core". This is the primary reaction chamber feeding into
main engineering..



..and this is what it's looking like in place at the moment.

It consists of large and small segments at the moment. The smaller segments will
wind up being anchor points connecting the larger portions to the dorsal spine.
The half-round purple and gold section in view will end up being the seat these
sections rest in. I've got a ways to go in finishing the core out, obviously.
The next step is to design the connections and ejection seats.
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Old October 20 2010, 10:07 PM   #142
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Saquist wrote: View Post
havoc92 wrote: View Post
Saquist wrote: View Post
makes me appreciate just how fragile the design really is.
This looks just like AUTOCAD.
It was definitely a tight squeeze getting those lines up and around the accessway. I'd intended to come in underneath but there is simply no
space. The feed lines are the exact same diamater going down the pylons as what is internal to the nacelles so that they'll mate up without major problems.
I was thinking from your internal plans There might be reason to re-hardpoint the hull in accordance with these under hull details...like Air Locks in these unused and odd shaped spaces near the hull.

Fabricate primitve transporter emitters for the out side.
Emergency hatches
Small integrated flush vents
waste dump hatches
Utilities hatches could be added along the secondary hull spine for starbase hook up.
Even those famed but never seen retracting phasers.

This is just a great guide to what the exterior should look like instead of the completely smoothed surface. Infact this could actually dictate what the hull plating should look like as well...something we haven't seen on this design.
Well, for now the Hull is simply a working shell. The windows aren't cut in or anything else yet for that matter. And I hadn't really
planned on leaving it a completely smooth surface.
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Old October 20 2010, 10:27 PM   #143
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havoc92 wrote: View Post
Well, vacation ends today; but, work continues:


This is my rendition of the "core". This is the primary reaction chamber feeding into
main engineering..



..and this is what it's looking like in place at the moment.

It consists of large and small segments at the moment. The smaller segments will
wind up being anchor points connecting the larger portions to the dorsal spine.
The half-round purple and gold section in view will end up being the seat these
sections rest in. I've got a ways to go in finishing the core out, obviously.
The next step is to design the connections and ejection seats.

I had no idea you'd go to this amount of detail...I like it.
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Old October 20 2010, 10:55 PM   #144
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Saquist wrote: View Post
havoc92 wrote: View Post
Well, vacation ends today; but, work continues:


This is my rendition of the "core". This is the primary reaction chamber feeding into
main engineering..



..and this is what it's looking like in place at the moment.

It consists of large and small segments at the moment. The smaller segments will
wind up being anchor points connecting the larger portions to the dorsal spine.
The half-round purple and gold section in view will end up being the seat these
sections rest in. I've got a ways to go in finishing the core out, obviously.
The next step is to design the connections and ejection seats.

I had no idea you'd go to this amount of detail...I like it.

Well, if you're gonna get dressed for the prom, you might as well dance lol.
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Old October 21 2010, 07:33 AM   #145
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Oh indeed.
My thoughts exactly.
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Old October 24 2010, 10:41 PM   #146
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Not much headway in the past few days. Been playing around with all options for a core ejection and I'm right back to ejection off the spine. Just don't see any other way to do it. So the spine supports are going to have to be beefed up.





So this is the core in place now. The linkages between the modules still need to be modified; but, the base
ejection mechanism is now in place. The modules will travel perpendicularly to their posture and then be swung
up at 46+ degrees vertical for the final push. This will leave all the modules with a clear shot upward save for the
uppermost module. That said, the attitude they are left in allows for a mechanical "push" out the back and a timed
charge to propel them vertically. It seems workable; so, that's where I am.
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Old October 25 2010, 11:19 PM   #147
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Re: NCC-1701 USS Enterprise Deck by Deck - WIP

More progress; but, it feels like I'm crawling here.



The walled in section that holds the core is progressing. I've trimmed it and done a better job centering it to the space. The original unit I crafted from the prints
was too big for the space; so, that's been remedied now. This shows the viewports cut in for diagnostic checks. The window sections aren't in place here.



This view shows the window in place along with the placement of the wiring trunks that have been tied into the lines along the spine of the ship.



And finally an aft view.

The decks now have to be cut to fit the new Core and support structure. And the plasma runs need to be joined to the core. Still a lot of work
to do to get this where I want it. But I'm pleased with the way it's turning out.
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Old October 25 2010, 11:49 PM   #148
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It's neat how you're tying together FJ's original design with later established tech! And you haven't really had to change anything major.
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Old October 26 2010, 12:11 AM   #149
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It's neat how you're tying together FJ's original design with later established tech! And you haven't really had to change anything major.
I think it's just a matter of FJ working at a time before a lot of the terminology had been established and certainly before there was the budget to do what was done with the later shows. So I'm just trimming back later versions to make a more simplistic looking core
to fit the existing design.
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Old October 26 2010, 01:35 AM   #150
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I don't know if you have considered it, try using those red hexagonal screens for your "inspection viewports" as TOS used those alot. Nice work, keep it up
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