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Old September 22 2010, 11:41 AM   #841
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Re: USS Grandeur - One... More... Time!

I like those impulse engines

(Oh, those TrekXI-style name/registration-lights do make a bit more sense than the usual single large spotlight, right?)
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Old September 22 2010, 03:30 PM   #842
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Re: USS Grandeur - One... More... Time!

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I like those impulse engines

(Oh, those TrekXI-style name/registration-lights do make a bit more sense than the usual single large spotlight, right?)
They do! But electro-luminescent materials in the paint itself makes even more sense. I'm thinking a thing white line around the black text that glows softly such that it doesn't appear emissive in direct sunlight, but is still visible in the dark. But it doesn't look Trekkish at all.
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Old September 22 2010, 06:45 PM   #843
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If I recall, Deg (if it was someone else, please forgive me) did a test with glowing letters and it ended up looking a bit daft.
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Old September 23 2010, 07:45 AM   #844
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If I recall, Deg (if it was someone else, please forgive me) did a test with glowing letters and it ended up looking a bit daft.
Yeah, I've seen such test-renders too. It just doesn't look good.
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Old September 23 2010, 03:27 PM   #845
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Well, as I said, it doesn't look Trekkish, but it does make more sense than throwing a spotlight on paint. I do remember Deg's experiments in this regard, but I don't think they were exhaustive. Futuristic signage might also take the form of simply lighting the area as though it was a display surface. But, again, this moves farther away from a Star Trek look. At some point, I want to dig into this more, but I want to make a nice model first.
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Old September 23 2010, 04:51 PM   #846
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Well, as I said, it doesn't look Trekkish, but it does make more sense than throwing a spotlight on paint.
I agree.
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Old September 23 2010, 08:51 PM   #847
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Well, as I said, it doesn't look Trekkish, but it does make more sense than throwing a spotlight on paint.
I agree.
Now I'm gonna get really wonky. Let's assume it's some sort of luminescent electrophoretic technology. Something like a 23rd century version of the display used in e-book readers.

It could animate.

U.S.S. GRANDEUR
[scroll]
NCC-90125-A
[scroll]
UNITED FEDERATION OF PLANETS
[scroll]
STARDATE 50368.2:33
[scroll]
-270° CELSIUS
[scroll]
SPECIAL ON TRIBBLES
[scroll]
U.S.S. GRANDEUR
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Old September 23 2010, 09:33 PM   #848
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Well, as I said, it doesn't look Trekkish, but it does make more sense than throwing a spotlight on paint.
I agree.
Now I'm gonna get really wonky. Let's assume it's some sort of luminescent electrophoretic technology. Something like a 23rd century version of the display used in e-book readers.

It could animate.

U.S.S. GRANDEUR
[scroll]
NCC-90125-A
[scroll]
UNITED FEDERATION OF PLANETS
[scroll]
STARDATE 50368.2:33
[scroll]
-270° CELSIUS
[scroll]
SPECIAL ON TRIBBLES
[scroll]
U.S.S. GRANDEUR


And Vektor, always nice to see progress on this little gem.
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Old September 24 2010, 07:57 AM   #849
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Psion wrote: View Post
ST-One wrote: View Post
Psion wrote: View Post
Well, as I said, it doesn't look Trekkish, but it does make more sense than throwing a spotlight on paint.
I agree.
Now I'm gonna get really wonky. Let's assume it's some sort of luminescent electrophoretic technology. Something like a 23rd century version of the display used in e-book readers.

It could animate.

U.S.S. GRANDEUR
[scroll]
NCC-90125-A
[scroll]
UNITED FEDERATION OF PLANETS
[scroll]
STARDATE 50368.2:33
[scroll]
-270° CELSIUS
[scroll]
SPECIAL ON TRIBBLES
[scroll]
U.S.S. GRANDEUR
[scroll]
Andorian Shingles-free for forty-seven weeks

[scroll]
... never mind
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Old September 24 2010, 03:41 PM   #850
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Very nice. I like the base colors you have laid down and as always eagerly await your next update. Hey who knows you could finish this project up before my eldest graduates from High School this year.
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Old September 24 2010, 03:55 PM   #851
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Hey who knows you could finish this project up before my eldest graduates from High School this year.
Heh. I'm not convinced he'll finish it before MY oldest finishes High School... in 2027!

Just joshin'. I know the only reason you're not done is because you're always trying to make it better.
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Old September 24 2010, 05:50 PM   #852
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Very nice. I like the base colors you have laid down and as always eagerly await your next update. Hey who knows you could finish this project up before my eldest graduates from High School this year.
Pretty sure that's totally untextured. We're just seeing place holder coloring.
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Old September 24 2010, 08:26 PM   #853
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Well, it's been a very long time coming, but finally... UPDATE!





This isn't as huge and dramatic as I had planned for my big comeback to this project, but I wanted to get something posted before I have to roll out of town on business for the rest of the week.

I should have more by some time this weekend.
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Old September 26 2010, 03:18 AM   #854
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She lives! Looking awesome.
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Old September 27 2010, 06:54 AM   #855
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As promised, here's a whole big batch of new WIPs. Lots of detailing added to the auxilliary deflector dish and the bridge deck and surrounding areas. More notes on specific features at the bottom of this post.










The colors used around the aux deflector are not final. The rust brown panels follow established precedent but I'm not convinced that they really fit with the rest of the color scheme or what they will look like when the dish lights up.

The name and registry light has finally been revealed. Sorry to dash the hopes of those of you who were expecting a shuttle bay or something more exotic.

The back half of B-deck is still pretty plain but you will undoubtedly notice the "sword" laid out behind the bridge-deck rear windows. One of the design goals for this ship is to integrate a number of unique features related to its Arthurian inspiration and this is one of them. It is actually intended to be functional, not just aesthetic, though I have no idea at the moment what that function might be. The end result should be a bit more subtle once the rest of the detailing is added.

Finally, the grills that wrap around the back half of the bridge-deck are not vents or exhaust ports or anything like that. Eventually those pits will be filled with some heavy greebling and a few point lights to suggest sensor arrays or something similarly techy.

By the way, for those who are interested, current face count is running about 450,000, though that is actually down a bit as I have begun freezing and optimizing some of the Sub-D objects. I'm hoping to keep the final model under the half a million mark, but we'll see.
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