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Old August 26 2010, 02:32 AM   #31
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Re: If Braga had a chance to do "Endgame" over again...

Have you seen Lucy Daughter of the devil?

A short lived mostly adult cartoon on adult swim a couple years back?

No?

Oh.

I liked Brannon's season or two on 24, and I certainly liked him on TNG.

It's hard to tell who did what or remember who was working when, but Brannon and Berman are just generic words to mean 'the bastards who bollocksed it up" even if Berman and Braga were on holiday and it was any fine pair entirely... Like Harvey Lee Oswald Or Michael Moore.

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Old August 26 2010, 03:14 AM   #32
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Re: If Braga had a chance to do "Endgame" over again...

Yeah. Besides, Braga didn't create Voyager. He didn't become the exec producer until, what, the fourth or fifth season? If anyone has any bones to pick with the first few seasons, one has to instead point the finger at UPN, or at Jeri Taylor. The lady who insisted that the show shouldn't have story arcs, and thought that Suder should have been killed off because 'his character couldn't be redeemed, and he'd have too much conflict with the rest of the crew'.
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Old August 26 2010, 06:59 AM   #33
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Re: If Braga had a chance to do "Endgame" over again...

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The fact that Data was already dead, though, and he'd just be ripping off Data's death, which was the worst-performing Star Trek movie ever, is probably why he didn't do it in the first place.

I believe Voyager had completed its run by the time Nemesis was released.
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Old August 26 2010, 07:28 AM   #34
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Re: If Braga had a chance to do "Endgame" over again...

There's a possibility that the folkes on top got to read the script(s... Imagine all the many many failed and rejected drafts they went through before they SETTLED on what they settled for.) for Nemesis some year(s?) before it was screening
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Old August 26 2010, 02:14 PM   #35
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Yeah. Besides, Braga didn't create Voyager. He didn't become the exec producer until, what, the fourth or fifth season? If anyone has any bones to pick with the first few seasons, one has to instead point the finger at UPN, or at Jeri Taylor. The lady who insisted that the show shouldn't have story arcs, and thought that Suder should have been killed off because 'his character couldn't be redeemed, and he'd have too much conflict with the rest of the crew'.
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Old August 26 2010, 09:25 PM   #36
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The fact that Data was already dead, though, and he'd just be ripping off Data's death, which was the worst-performing Star Trek movie ever, is probably why he didn't do it in the first place.

I believe Voyager had completed its run by the time Nemesis was released.
You would be correct. Voyager ended in 2001 and Nemesis wasn't released until 2002, the latter half of 2002 mind you.
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Old August 26 2010, 11:37 PM   #37
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Re: If Braga had a chance to do "Endgame" over again...

I still think the Vaduaar with their subspace tunnels (or whatever they were) would have been a better foe than the Borg for a quick return to the AQ. In fact, I would have loved to see the Vaduaar used more in the series. They were awesome--so duplicitous.
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Old August 27 2010, 11:05 AM   #38
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Re: If Braga had a chance to do "Endgame" over again...

I didn't really see a problem with Endgame as written. Killing off 7o'9 may have added some emotional weight to the finale, but seems a little cliche to me.
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Old August 27 2010, 01:59 PM   #39
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Re: If Braga had a chance to do "Endgame" over again...

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I still think the Vaduaar with their subspace tunnels (or whatever they were) would have been a better foe than the Borg for a quick return to the AQ. In fact, I would have loved to see the Vaduaar used more in the series. They were awesome--so duplicitous.
I agree. Big surprise there!
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Old August 27 2010, 03:03 PM   #40
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Also, they had inferior tech but still enough to fight VOY. That way they could use them repeatedly without damaging the ship too much or killing people.
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